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View Poll Results: Is jumping an abnormal movement which would justify a card for Target Displacement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by achilleus
    It's very possible to parry while jumping or riposte while jumping, especially if one is trying to flick to the back.

    Witness Jon Tiomkin's photo at the Olympics. Certainly looks like a (attempted maybe) parry.

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    That touch is amusing, in that the mid-air photo looks spectacular and graceful, but the actual video of the event just looks like Tiomkin made a really ugly move. If I remember correctly, he took some advances, leapt way up in the air without really feeling out the distance, parried Ganeev's attack on preparation, and then fell on him for a corps-a-corps yellow card. My first thought upon watching it was "What the heck was Tiomkin thinking?" (which was followed a moment later by "Well, I guess I wouldn't do any better against Ganeev, so I can't get too miffed over an ugly action").

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    I'm so glad this isn't illegal. I displace target all of the time....inquartata, pasato soto...

    It's fun once in a while to jump in the air, watch your opponent go WTF, and hit them...
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    I do do pasato di soto(sp?) sometimes and dont get called on it thak god though i did once get called for displacing target for parrying quarte and getting hit on the arm as my opponent attempted to disengage. the referee disappeared for a little while... duh... but its up to the refs discretion. i suppose i might give a warning if the person kept displacing target against someone elses attack and the attack was hitting where the target was before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebonylevin
    I do do pasato di soto(sp?) sometimes and dont get called on it thak god .
    Why would a passata soto be called displacing?

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    Why would a passata soto be called displacing?
    because you are doing a counter attack and displacing your valid target with nothing so that gives your opponent a disadvantage. i dont know i just think that especially if you displace your target constantly and on purpose then its not good or sportsperson like. though were i go the refs are so anal over the rules, you put your mask down with a little more force than necessary then *whips out imaginary cards* BLACK CARD. Meh, referring and interpretation of the rules are different everywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebonylevin
    because you are doing a counter attack and displacing your valid target with nothing so that gives your opponent a disadvantage.
    You are indeed removing the front of your target area from your opponent's line of attack, but you are simply replacing it with your back. Seems equitable to me.

    More to the point if the move were a no-no, why would it be a part of even the most classical of repertoires? It was actually the logo of the Central Florida Divisions old newsletter [not that that's evidence of anything other than looking cool].

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    To earn a yellow card for this you have to be actually covering your valid target, not simply moving it out of the way, otherwise you could argue that any movement should be penalised. If someone did give you a yellow card for this you should take it straight to the DT.

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    Squatting to me is target displacement cause I hate it when that is done against me.
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    Sure it's displacement. So is retreating. Neither are offenses.

    Switch to sabre, davtsung, no one bothers with squatting there. Not much point in trying to duck under a descending blade.

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