10-04-2004, 08:35 AM
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#1 | | Immortal
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| The horror--wireless sabre now available from Allstar
The Allstar website is now selling the wireless sabre system: http://www.allstar.de/index.php?modu...ctivelevel_2=2
You can get a complete set of equipment for ONE fencer for a mere Euro 999, if you don't have to pay German value-added tax (which in this case would seem to be absurd, since there clearly is no value-added to this system....). Euro 1160 or thereabouts if you do have to pay Mehrwertsteuer.
This really makes sabre the most expensive weapon.   
MR
PS. Can someone please explain, using words of two syllables or less, the function of the "conductive T-shirt?"
PPS. I'm assuming that this kit is available for people putting on FIE tournaments, and there is not an expectation that fencers will be buying it themselves--having to buy this crap might be enough to force me into the Classical fencing camp--bring on those Raedellian sabres!  
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10-04-2004, 09:30 AM
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#2 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
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Originally Posted by sabreur You can get a complete set of equipment for ONE fencer for a mere Euro 999, | A bargain for something that probably won't work worth a foil tip, er, I mean, beans. Quote:
PS. Can someone please explain, using words of two syllables or less, what the function of the "conductive T-shirt" is?
| "Higher profit margin." Shhh! It's a secret. | |
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10-04-2004, 09:26 PM
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#3 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Inquartata "Higher profit margin." Shhh! It's a secret. |
I belive he said 5 syllables sir! so "more cash!"
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10-05-2004, 01:09 AM
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#4 | | Senior Member
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| Sweet, about time they started getting the wireless systems out there for us to play with.  | |
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10-05-2004, 07:01 AM
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#5 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
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Originally Posted by deadly lefty I belive he said 5 syllables sir! so "more cash!" | "Words of two syllables or less", not "two syllables altogether", Mr. Smarty Pants!  | |
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10-05-2004, 08:11 AM
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#6 | | Immortal
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Originally Posted by Inquartata "Words of two syllables or less", not "two syllables altogether", Mr. Smarty Pants! | Quart is right.
No one has volunteered an explanation yet.
If the board still allowed negative reputation points, MikeHarm would be getting mine until hell freezes over.
MR
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10-05-2004, 08:31 AM
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| Ahhh C'mon... I'd pay good cash to see you in one of those cconductive t-shirts! | |
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10-05-2004, 10:14 AM
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#8 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
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| TMI
( Plus the inevitable extra characters---now with Nutrasweet! )
There's a thread about the beastly things in the Armoury forum: http://www.fencing101.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13414
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10-05-2004, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by sabreur Quart is right.
No one has volunteered an explanation yet. | There is no good explaination. You would think in this day and age of technology, we could come up with a saber that used something more akin to the foil tip... a conductive, spring suspended edge and tip. It would make sabre equipment more akin to foil, and it would limit to cuts to only the edge... Ahhh but that is simply a dream. Quote: |
Originally Posted by sabreur If the board still allowed negative reputation points, MikeHarm would be getting mine until hell freezes over.
MR | Sabreur! I'm hurt! I thought your negative reputation points were reserved for me.... 
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10-05-2004, 12:57 PM
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#10 | | Armorer
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| I did suggest a simple effective method, plug the Saberist directly to the wall current, preferably European 220. I felt all touches would be acknowlege and there wouldn't be all the problems.
But older and wiser heads, felt the Saberist might start to enjoy it and they couldn't write any new rules the Saberist would like.
I still like the St. George wireless system, that used the piste and special shoes.
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10-05-2004, 01:39 PM
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| If that's not satisfactory, upgrade to the Ben Franklin method, and tie the bodycord to a lightning rod. "Fencer on the left, please test your weapon by touching that metal target over there, the one labelled 'Ground'". Results variable based on weather and luck
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10-05-2004, 01:47 PM
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I still like the St. George wireless system, that used the piste and special shoes.
| What happened if a fencer got hit while in the air? I guess it would make sense to put a capicitor on the lame circuit, and then charge it if the fencer gets hit in the air, discharging it when they come back in contact with the strip.
Is there another solution? That's tres cool!
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10-05-2004, 02:05 PM
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#13 | | Armorer
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| That was worked out. First the individual units were put in timing sync with the base unit. The unit would wait for contact with the piste and send the signal with a timing check. The one problem was going off the strip.
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