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Old 09-23-2004, 05:48 PM   #21
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That's just what happens when you try to civilianize a military vehicle.
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hehehe, civilianize.. quite funny.
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Aahhhh I hate SUVs and Hummers, especially H2s. (the extra-large version of the hummer, basically a gigantic box the size of an apartment) The new hybrid versions are a bit better, but there's still the whole safetiness issue. My parents drive a Honda Civic hybrid (sooo much better, they've gotten up to 60 mpg and it's perfectly quiet at red lights) and most of my friends think it's WAY cooler than any SUV.
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Hummers get:

Turbos:

10.5 mpg worst at 83 mile per hour
14.2 mpg best driving easy under 55 miles per hour easy stop and go

Non turbo:

10.00 mpg is worst at 78 miles per hour
13.2 mpg best

Gas:

3.8 mpg worst at 78 miles per hour
6.8 mpg best easy in town driving


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Turbo Hummer?

That just seems a little counter intuitive........
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Hummers get:

Turbos:

10.5 mpg worst at 83 mile per hour
14.2 mpg best driving easy under 55 miles per hour easy stop and go

Non turbo:

10.00 mpg is worst at 78 miles per hour
13.2 mpg best

Gas:

3.8 mpg worst at 78 miles per hour
6.8 mpg best easy in town driving


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The main reason Hummers are pathetic and Humm-Vees are marvelous, is Hummers don't generally come with the .50-cal or TOW launcher mounts, or stacks, or any of those fun toys.
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My friend's Got a solid steel Land Rover from England that they brought here. It has motches to install machine gun mounts. It's awesome- a semi hit it and only took the bumper off. I'd like to see a damn Ford Explorer do that. The people who have the car actually got it for like 4 grand in an auction to charity.
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Yeah, that must be great for fending off nicks when in the local Wal-Mart parking lot...
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I drive (car's actualy my mom's) a jeep "cheroke sport" thing, the cheaper crysler one, whichever that is, and it gets only 15 mpg, which i do not like, but living in maine I certainly appreciate the four-wheel drive in the winter. It is anoyingly unstable on the highway and going around corners though.
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When I drive (which is when iviting my parents- I hae no car) my fathers' front drive sentra does very well in the snow- and far better than my parents minivan (likewise frount drive) on the highway as well...
SUVs are pointless- if you do need a 4-drive a wagen will handle better, and use less gas.
If you want to burn 15mpg than at lest get something fun like an aston martin or a maserati. But dont.
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Ballet and French aren't really posh - I was just trying to get across a stereotypical image of a certain type of posh mummy, whose children are constantly pushed into going to classes and groups eight nights a weeks so that their parents can show off about how advanced and accomplished they are. Plus the habit of sending a child to French classes well before they would normally start them at school aged 11, again so they can boast that their little darling manages so well when they go to their summer home in the south of France...
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The main reason Hummers are pathetic and Humm-Vees are marvelous, is Hummers don't generally come with the .50-cal or TOW launcher mounts, or stacks, or any of those fun toys.
Hummers are also not actually related to HMMWVs--except in looks. A guy who works for GM told me that the civilian model is based on a truck frame with completely different engineering. A HMMWV is a great vehicle, but I wouldn't want to ride in one unless I was somewhere it was necessary. Occupant comfort is not the first priority of that vehicle.

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Hummers are pathetic and in every way unneeded.

Humm-Vees, on the other hand, are marvelous things.
Ahem! Other way 'round, says I.
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Ahem! Other way 'round, says I.
You would, wouldn't you?
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I would. I did!
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Dualy noted.

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Ahem! Other way 'round, says I.
Why?

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Hummers are also not actually related to HMMWVs--except in looks. A guy who works for GM told me that the civilian model is based on a truck frame with completely different engineering. A HMMWV is a great vehicle, but I wouldn't want to ride in one unless I was somewhere it was necessary. Occupant comfort is not the first priority of that vehicle.

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To quote Dave Barry, talking about a ride he had in a Hummer: "It rode like an expensive luxury vehicle, that was being driven on its roof." I get the idea passenger comfort isn't the first priority of Hummers, either.

Interesting that they're so differently engineered; I hadn't heard that. All the same, my earlier position stands: The build of Humm-Vees has a purpose - the Army needs a good tough vehicle to go places most vehicles don't. The Hummer, however, while built and advertised to be such a vehicle, is something people never take out of the Wal-Mart parking lot without inspecting carefully for shopping-cart scratches. The power and build of it are completely unnecessary.

And no, I don't fence here. To do so would require being on the intercollegiate team full-time, which I simply don't have the time for.
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"Never explain a joke" is the first rule of comedy. Just keep looking at the name of the vehicle, and think synonyms. I am comparatively certain that you will get it eventually.
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I think I almost get it....is it innuendo?
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