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Old 09-20-2004, 04:15 PM   #1
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Light Epees

Anyones know whats the lightest epee out there. My coach wants my to use chinese blade because there light and felxible, but I dont want to get attached to it for obvious reason. It would be nice if there was a FIE version of it .

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Old 09-20-2004, 04:22 PM   #2
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There is a very nice lightweight maraging epee sold by leon paul. Here is the link: http://www.leonpaul.com/shop/new_pro...light_weig.htm
This is about as light as you can get!
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Old 09-20-2004, 04:23 PM   #3
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lps are light, some batches of BF blues are the lightest blades i've felt, and most of the regular non-maraging blades are fairly light.

for the most part, though, its less about how light it is and more about the balance of the weapon.
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Old 09-20-2004, 04:28 PM   #4
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What noodle says is true. Personally, I've noticed it is much better fencing with a balanced epee, canted just right, then a very light one. But then again this is another personal preference thing where everyone has different takes on what is a better type of weapon.
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LP epee non maraging. All the way.
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Old 09-20-2004, 06:34 PM   #6
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LP epee non maraging. All the way.
unless of course he was after an FIE blade, as stated in the original post.

But yeah, my main weapon is an FIE LP blade.

http://www.leonpaul.com/acatalog/Sho...c_Epees_2.html

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This weapon weighs an incredible 320g compared to 530g for a weapon made with a BF (Blaise Frere) blade, standard guard and traditional french grip. This makes it a staggering 65% lighter. Many people find that not only does the reduced weight increace their speed but that they can pommel much more easily giving them a reach advantage of 5 inches or more.
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Old 09-20-2004, 07:11 PM   #7
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BF blue epee blade ._. is the one
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You might think about getting a superlight bellguard. That can take quite a bit of weight off of an epee.

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You might think about getting a superlight bellguard. That can take quite a bit of weight off of an epee.
However, the superlight bellguards do not last the same.
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Another vote from me for the LP non-FIE blades. The standard ones last so long that I have never seen the need to get the FIE version. They also do not rust any more than an FIE blade in my experiance, which is nice since you live in Baltimore. I would sort of ignore your coach on the "By chinese epee blades" bit. I think he might be just a little biased in that regard! Besides, all the Chinese blades I have ever used are crap.

If you get an LP blade, an ultralight bellguard and one of the LP plastic or carbon fiber grips you will have the lightest blade around.
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However, the superlight bellguards do not last the same.
vniti bellguards. only slightly heavier than ultralight and made of titanium. been using mine for a year and they have no dents, period.
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I keep hearing about those things! I have never had much of a problem with my bells getting trashed, even the cheap BG ones, but I would like to try out one of the Vniti ones since I love their Foils so much, I am hoping the rest of their stuff is just as durable. Noodle, If you could point me towards a vendor that would be great!
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blade has them, i believe
bg "has" them, but "has" them in small quantities and for cheap, so if you're not the right person, they don't "have" them.
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Another vote from me for the LP non-FIE blades. The standard ones last so long that I have never seen the need to get the FIE version. They also do not rust any more than an FIE blade in my experiance, which is nice since you live in Baltimore. I would sort of ignore your coach on the "By chinese epee blades" bit. I think he might be just a little biased in that regard! Besides, all the Chinese blades I have ever used are crap.

If you get an LP blade, an ultralight bellguard and one of the LP plastic or carbon fiber grips you will have the lightest blade around.

unless you are doing A grades on a regular basis, hehe.

Yeah, i but use the FIE blades, lightweight guards, sockets and pommel/post with the carbon fibre handle.
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vniti bellguards. only slightly heavier than ultralight and made of titanium. been using mine for a year and they have no dents, period.
How much they are. Perhaps, they have an alloy of aluminum with titanium. O/W price would be out the roof.
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LP maraging blades are very light. I use them almost exclusively. However it's also important to get the 'feel' right. BF blades are heavier but not significantly so; it's worth checking out ultra light guards as well. My favoured configuration is: ultra light guard, LP blade and tip, allstar connector and grip.
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Bah! Light epees aren't nearly as cool as lightsabres. Now if only I could find someone to teach me how to build one of those bad boys....

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Bah Humbug. Use the force and balance your weapon. It'll be light as a feather.
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Do some footwork (or just stay in your en garde position, it's up to you) with your mask hanging off the forte of your blade. When your arm starts to feel as though it's going to fall off, remove the mask. Your blade will feel featherlight
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Uhlmann has the titanium guard as well....


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I have seen these guards and they are light and strong. I still have to agree with others above, a well balanced weapon is the key.
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