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Old 09-13-2004, 10:58 AM   #1
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Name of a move

There's an action with an ild italian or french name usually used in epee and shown in a few icons and fencing graphics.

Fencer B lunges to the lowline, and fencer A executes the move by standing upright to move target out of rang and extending his arm down onto Fencer B's Target.

I've been racking my brain and trying to search the boards, what is it called.......

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Old 09-13-2004, 11:03 AM   #2
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I call it a counter attack. I do this a fair amount, usually with a small hop back, but I did not know it actually had a name. I have heard someone call it a fading counter attack but I doubt that is the proper title.
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Old 09-13-2004, 11:30 AM   #3
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The poke is a counterattack or stop-hit.
The standing up and arching out of the oncoming attack is a rassemblement.
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Old 09-13-2004, 01:57 PM   #4
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The word you're looking for is probably esquive, meaning evasion and can be used to describe any move where you take the threatened part of your body out of the harms way while sticking your arm (and point) out.
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Old 09-13-2004, 02:54 PM   #5
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The word you're looking for is probably esquive, meaning evasion and can be used to describe any move where you take the threatened part of your body out of the harms way while sticking your arm (and point) out.
Reassamblement and esquive are the same things, really, and the action that origional poster was describing is named an inquartata by some (It doesn't fulfill the purpose of an inquartata in that you arent removing yourself from the four line, so it may or may not be one) and just a reassemblement by others.
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Old 09-13-2004, 04:06 PM   #6
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Trying to clear up the confusion

The action described is a rassamblement, which is a type of esquive.
Inquartata is also a type of esquive, albeit a different one.

Esquive = evasion ... basically moving your body in some way other than stepping to avoid being hit, while making a counterattack. The three below are the esquives you'll see most often:

Rassamblement = Pulling back your front foot, sucking in your gut while extending over the top ... basically an esquive against a low-line attack.

Inquartata = Twisting away from an attack in 4.

Passata Soto = Passing under, ducking (well, lunging backwards is more like it) under a high attack.
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Old 09-14-2004, 02:37 AM   #7
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Yeah...

...I'd say that's a Rassemblement too.
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Old 09-14-2004, 02:48 AM   #8
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I thought rassemblement was basically just pulling your legs together, as when saluting. It doesn't really matter which leg you move, or for what purpose.

Could we settle for coup d'arret avec rassemblement?

Seriously, I can see good reasons to use any of the words arret, equive or rassemblement to describe the move in shorthand -- they're just naming different elements of it.
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The inquartata is not in itself a type of evasion. It combines an evasion with a blade action ( a croise ).
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