06-23-2002, 05:26 AM
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#1 | | Armorer
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| On The Road Again The moblie repair shop of Ye Olde Armourer is on the road again. Another 2000 plus miles. So we
see youall at Greenville. Stop by the booth and say Hi as we going to be there all week. Everybody have a safe trip to Greenville SC.
To all referee's your name tags are ready to be pick up at the booth. All the weights and shim has been bought into the rules.
Tim  <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />
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06-24-2002, 08:00 PM
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#2 | | Senior Member
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| </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Helvetica, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">So we see youall in Greenville </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Considering it's the South, shouldn't that be y'all, or to be completely correct all y'all?  <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
Again, I couldn't resist.
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06-24-2002, 08:13 PM
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#3 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
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| Thought it was "yawl" myself...
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06-25-2002, 05:18 AM
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#4 | | Senior Member
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| </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Helvetica, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Originally posted by Inquartata:
<strong>Thought it was "yawl" myself...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Sorry, Inq... I didn't quite "ketch" that... 
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06-25-2002, 08:01 AM
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#5 | | Senior Member
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| </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Helvetica, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Originally posted by Inquartata:
<strong>Thought it was "yawl" myself...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">ehem... its "yall". We tend to draw the "you all" together and thus you get yall. However you need to say it slowly and draw it out a little. Don't be afraid to sound southern. Before you leave you will be talkin hick, I gare-on-tee. Try a few other words like fixin, pert near, and yonder. All of which are good southern words. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> |
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06-25-2002, 08:05 AM
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#6 | | Senior Member
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| Oh and if any of yall find yourself driving through Tennessee to get to SC. Concider yourselves invited to stop in and visit my little club and fence with us (at no charge). We would welcome the visitors. We are small but we are scrappy. Anyway if you are coming through and want to stop by, send me a PM and I will give you directions, its real easy to find. Just down the road a ways. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> |
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06-25-2002, 09:48 AM
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#7 | | Senior Member
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| </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Helvetica, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Originally posted by KC:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Helvetica, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Originally posted by Inquartata:
<strong>Thought it was "yawl" myself...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">ehem... its "yall". We tend to draw the "you all" together and thus you get yall. However you need to say it slowly and draw it out a little. Don't be afraid to sound southern. Before you leave you will be talkin hick, I gare-on-tee. Try a few other words like fixin, pert near, and yonder. All of which are good southern words. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">A few other phrases to add to your Southern Repetoire:
Poke: has nothing to do with pointy things. A poke is a bag or sack.
Big ol': As in "That's a big ol' poke ya got there."
Might could: As in "Can you fix this foil?" "Well, I might could..." 
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06-25-2002, 09:57 AM
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| Yeah and there is a whole lot less of "pressing buttons" and a whole lot more "mashing buttons"
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06-25-2002, 09:57 AM
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#9 | | Senior Member
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| The correct term is "fixin to", as in " I'm fixin to do such and such" and "all" is what most Texans get when they drill for water.
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06-25-2002, 10:50 AM
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#10 | | Senior Member
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| </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Helvetica, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Originally posted by Mergs:
<strong>The correct term is "fixin to", as in " I'm fixin to do such and such" and "all" is what most Texans get when they drill for water.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">My sister-in-law is so fond of southernisms that she would love to write a book of them. My personal favorite is "He's as useless as tits on a boar hog." |
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06-25-2002, 12:05 PM
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| that's an interesting one. :-)
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06-25-2002, 03:05 PM
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| One of my favorite southernism is one that you won't hear very often- used in a context like this-
In a tournament, Fencer X, reviewing his first round pool indicators (and comparing with others), tries to adjust his fencing so he is not paired with dreaded fencer Y in the first DE round.
To his chagrin, in his first DE he is instead paired with fencer Z, who is twice as dangerous as fencer Y.
Southerner observation: "He left the back door open, and the wrong dogs came home..." |
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06-25-2002, 05:29 PM
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#13 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
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| </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Helvetica, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Originally posted by lochinvar:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Helvetica, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Originally posted by Inquartata:
<strong>Thought it was "yawl" myself...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Sorry, Inq... I didn't quite "ketch" that...  </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">LOL!
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06-25-2002, 06:31 PM
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| </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Helvetica, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Originally posted by E-fencer:
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Southerner observation: "He left the back door open, and the wrong dogs came home..."</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Great one! My grandmother was the source of many of my "Southern-isms", although you might more accurately characterize them as "rural-isms", since she never went further south in her life than the Ohio river:
"Chickens comin' home to roost." Meaning: what goes around, comes around. As you do unto others, so will it be done unto you.
"That dog won't hunt." Said about a tall tale or an outright lie.
"Ugly enough to make a train take a dirt road." Self-explanatory.
And my favorite: "Just 'cause a cat's born in the barn, that don't make it a horse."
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06-26-2002, 03:42 AM
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#15 | | Armorer
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| Well we are in the great State of Mo this morning. We had some car poblems in Neb the ABS system went out on the van but we are back on the road again.
Tim
PS: Everybody on this board knows that I can't spell worth a Shi!
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06-26-2002, 05:51 PM
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#16 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
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| Mo has her own state now? Color me impressed! 
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06-26-2002, 10:03 PM
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| Actually, you get a lot of the "ruralism" stuff in South Eastern Utah too. Then of course we just talk funny around here in general, e.g. Mantua=man-a-way, Tooele= too-will-uh to name a few. Ketch and might could are popular too. I think pronouncing deal as dill, so instead of a real deal, you get a rill dill, is a uniquely Utah problem.
And Salle Armourer, I wasn't correcting your spelling, you were fine. It's just that around my club, which includes people who have spent time in the South and some who have relatives there now or previously, we've had detailed, yet humorous, discussions on the ya'll/ all ya'll thing. We've come to the conclusion that ya'll refers to an individual, if you'r talking to a group you must use all ya'll.
As additional note, my grandmother tended to refer to rough people as either hoodlums (HOOD-lums), or bohunks.
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06-27-2002, 03:53 AM
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#18 | | Scavenger
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| In today's B.C. comic strip, a definition:
Withdrawal: How all Southerners are born.
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06-27-2002, 05:36 AM
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#19 | | Immortal
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| </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Helvetica, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Originally posted by lochinvar:
"That dog won't hunt." Said about a tall tale or an outright lie.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Helvetica, Arial">Also means roughly "it won't work."
There is a fine gradation between the folks who say "you-all" and those who say "y'all," by the way.
MR
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06-27-2002, 07:34 AM
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| The consensus among linguists is that "you all" originated as a way to distinguish between "you (singular)" and "you (plural)," since English doesn't have different forms for those pronouns.
Following that scheme, one would use "you" when speaking to an individual and "y'all" when speaking to a group. This is actually how I heard it used when I was growing up, and it's still quite common usage--at least in southern Indiana, Florence, KY, and in the Atlanta area. I can't speak for the rest of the South or South-like areas.
Using "y'all" to refer to a single individual is, I believe, of reletively recent coinage--which forces the use of "all y'all" to refer to a group if one wants to maintain the distinction between the singular and plural forms.
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