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Old 09-02-2004, 02:43 AM   #1
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does anyone has a good way to treat twisted knee injure

does anyone has a good way to treat twisted knee injure??? or a way to prevent it to happen again and again on me lol ._.?




and if there is any drill or practise i could do with out the use from my right knee are helpful too. thanks ;]
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AFAIK, a twisted knee injury is due to tears in Meniscus Cartilage, the soft tissue inside the knee to soften the impact between the two bones. It may heal by itself provided the patient doesn't use his knee (especially avoiding high impact loads) and keeps it warm for high blood flow (for healing). Then again, severe cases may require surgery. Check it out with a doctor, ok?

It seems that the only way to prevent it happening again (and again) is to avoid execcive impact loads and knee torsion, and strengthen your inner thigh muscles. They're the ones that support and protect your knee.
One can use a leg extender with last 20 degrees extension, foot turned outside so the strain really is on the inner muscles. Or use elactic band resisting movement with the leg straight. And cycling is good, too.

First thing is to heal the knee, though.

Most of this I learned from my physiotherapist after a surgery due a dislocated knee ten years ago. It was a second time. The surgeon said I'd be better off with coaching, since the knee wouldn't stand competitive fencing anymore. I chose to believe the therapist, started exercising my legs as ordered. Haven't suffered a leg injury since and went on to compete on national level.
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does anyone has a good way to treat twisted knee injure??? or a way to prevent it to happen again and again on me lol ._.?
Just watch your technique. If you twist your knee every time, you're clearly doing some things wrong.
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Old 09-02-2004, 08:39 AM   #4
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Tape your footwork during "bouting", you might (or not) be surprised about how bad your technique is.

If your knee hurts before fencing, you should not be fencing but resting or being evaluated by a sports medicine physician. You might have a partial tear that could improve with conservative therapy. If you continue fencing (stressing the knee), then, you might need surgery and a more prolonged period of rest.

If it does not hurt or swollen (inflamed), you might consider using a soft knee brace (any sporting store has them). Then use it everytime, and improve your footwork. If it is painful or swollen before/after fencing, you should have it evaluated by a professional.
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Old 09-02-2004, 09:42 AM   #5
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Rest it, ice it, see a doctor.

A "twisted knee" can be a wide variety of things, some which will get better on their own within a couple of weeks, some which require surgery and physiotherapy. Most will lie somewhere in between.

The best way to prevent it recurring:

1. Do whatever your doctor and/or physiotherapist tells you to do to allow it to heal properly.
2. Improve your technique to avoid undue stress on the joint.
3. If your doctor and/or physiotherapist tells you you need a brace, get it and wear it.
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Sadly, the only way to "treat" a knee injury is to put the fencer out of his misery as humanely and quickly as possible by taking away his weapons and sending him to play backgammon instead.
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Sadly, the only way to "treat" a knee injury is to put the fencer out of his misery as humanely and quickly as possible by taking away his weapons and sending him to play backgammon instead.
Yes. Either that or to degrade him/her to foilfencing...

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Just watch your technique. If you twist your knee every time, you're clearly doing some things wrong.
This is not quite the truth. If the knee is getting injured a lot it is because something is wrong, not neccessarily technique that can be corrected by just watching out.

It could be muscle imbalance, or some other issue.
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Just watch your technique. If you twist your knee every time, you're clearly doing some things wrong.


o i think its not how i fence costed the problem, because i never twist my knee while i am fencing. injury often happen to me before fencing or after practice.
strange huh?
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Old 09-03-2004, 12:24 PM   #10
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exercise

Exercise after the swelling and inflammation subsides is the main theme. Even if if heals natural after an injury, the muscles around the knee will still weak and not be strong enough to hold the knee. Then recurrent injuries occur. Excersie i think might start with simple strengthening in relatively normally anatomical postures. Then try to tranfer the new muscle power in you fencing stance. Practice more in front of a mirror for a while might be nice. If the muscles are weak, they can't take up any of the impact for then knee, then all the forces goes the the meniscus and tendons and ligament.

But Then again, maybe it's just better to get professional advice.
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