Now THIS is an A+ answer.

[prototoast]

Originally Posted by civiltech

With all the negative media, and the frustration with George W., how can he still be in this race?

I don't understand. Is there something that Americans like about him that seems to keep him running alonside Kerry? Trying not to be sarcastic, but I'm really curious....

See, the democrats no longer stand for anything. They are a useless political party. Democrats never choose a viable candidate, because instead of voting for a candidate whom they think will do they best job, they try to vote based upon "electibility." John Kerry doesn't stand for anything, except for being a vietnam veteran. First, a lot of kerry supporters (liberals who are forced to choose democrat) are opposed to war (many avoided going to vietname themselves), being a questionable "war hero" really doesn't matter that much. Also, he's trying to take on the republicans on issues of national defense, with a policy of "I agree with everything the current president has done, but I'd just do it a little differently and my way would work out perfectly."

Basically, the democrats don't know how to pick a good candidate.

[KShan5[PrFC]]

Originally Posted by MHS Fencer

Remember who owns the media, and who serves the best interests of those owners. Now ask why a candidate like Howard Dean was completely assassinated by the media

Mayeb it was because of this:

http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...dean_nuts.mpga

ya think??

[mrbiggs]

^---what is this icon?

The last good candidate the democrats fielded was Bill Clinton. Before that, it was...um.....FDR?

Really, come on, guys! We gotta get some sane people in office! We gotta take this to the next level! Those republican bastards are going DOWN! DOWN, I TELL YOU! DOWN to CHINA TOWN!!! DEAN IS GOING ALL THE WAYYYYYYYYY!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOARGH!

Ok, maybe we have some slight party revamping to do. Try to create a "platform." Try to expose the fact that your opponents are "right-wing lunatics" who "take orders from the Pope". Come on, it's not that hard. Just watch how the Republicans slander, you'll get the hang of it.

Sorry for the long, meaningless post. Need sleep.

[CvilleFencer]

Oh my, heavens save us from a politician that has enough of a soul left to show a little emotion. I guess people would rather elect a bumbling idiot who destroys the goodwill of our allies, goes to war for no reason, staffs medical and scientific boards and groups with christian wackos, finds ways to pay off said christian wackos with federal tax dollars, exploits the environment, blah blah blah. I could go on but it really does not matter. Republicans will vote republican because that is their horse and dems will vote dem because that is their horse. I think most Americans care less about who actually wins than they do about backing their horse, home team, whatever you want to call it.

[Sarah]

I care! I'm unaffiliated. We need someone who can think a coherent sentence without someone else telling them what to think. (or say.) When I'm older, I'll try running, you all can vote for me and say 'wow... instead of some mindless fool we get to vote for an insane lunatic that can think!' (yes.. I know that an 'insane lunatic' is a redundant phrase... hehehe) By the time that I can be president, I'll have lived all over the world and I'll know all about societies. I'll be a great candidate. ... Ok, now that I'm out of my fantasy, there are no good candidates that I've seen. Plus I think that the voting system is rigged, so I don't see the point of voting. *shifts eyes* They're coming for me... *twitch* I can feel them...

(hehe... too many nights without sleep..)

[mrbiggs]

Originally Posted by CvilleFencer

Oh my, heavens save us from a politician that has enough of a soul left to show a little emotion. I guess people would rather elect a bumbling idiot who destroys the goodwill of our allies, goes to war for no reason, staffs medical and scientific boards and groups with christian wackos, finds ways to pay off said christian wackos with federal tax dollars, exploits the environment, blah blah blah. I could go on but it really does not matter. Republicans will vote republican because that is their horse and dems will vote dem because that is their horse. I think most Americans care less about who actually wins than they do about backing their horse, home team, whatever you want to call it.

No, but I can see how poeple are hesitant to elect Kerry, who um......he......he's a war vet, and.........um......he's a.....democrat.

I mean, I hate Bush. Alot. And that's why I'ma support Kerry. BUT, I could see how people who are republicans, lunatic christians, or moderates against abortion and gay marriage would choose Bush.

KERRY! Wherever you are! You're blowing your opportunity! Ach! It's no use. He can't hear me.

[CvilleFencer]

I agree that Kerry is one of the most boring people around. In his defense he has tried to talk about other issues such as job growth, health care and security but all the media attention is over his war record. I think he did kind of blow it during they convention when that was about all he talked about.

I would not have voted for Kerry under normal circumstances, do not like him very much and I tend to think he will be a president who votes based on focus groups the principles. However, despite his failing, short of Charlie Manson or Adolf Hitler (aka Pat Buchanan) I would vote for pretty much anyone BUT bush! (I guess I am helping to prove my point about picking a side an voting that party line.)

[civiltech]

I don't understand why military history is so important in this political race.....

Who really cares if Kerry was in a boat or not. Who cares if Bush was in a plane over Texas or Vietnam....

I ain't American, but when do they start talking about the economy, job production, social welfare net, streamlining government services, crime rate, pharmacy drug costs, public transit, environment, .......

I think this whole military history, or whether Bush used cocaine 20 years ago, or whatever dirt was dug up on Kerry now, is really a red herring. When do they start talking about issues that run a country.


My two cents for all it's worth.....dirty campaigns serve nobody. They just confuse the voting public.

[mrbiggs]

I agree, BUT when the Republicans are constantly calling the democrats wimps and cowards on the topics of terrorism and economics, i think it's important to remember who actually ran away from a real war, and who had the balls to go and fight.

I can't beleive the Republicans are running such a negative campaign with Dubya as their candidate.

[jeff]

Originally Posted by mrbiggs

I can't beleive the Republicans are running such a negative campaign with Dubya as their candidate.

I can't believe it's so effective....

[HillBilly]

It's hard to believe people would actually vote for bush... but then again why is Kerry better? He's like Bush's clone, only with botox! I say people vote for Nader! Nader for 2004! Nader, Nader, Nader!

I love Howard Dean... He's the only politician I've seen that has the balls to yell out to a crowd instead of kissing the *** of some little kid just because it makes good publicity... mutter mutter mutter I wish Dean was up there instead of Kerry...

[mrbiggs]

The ONLY reason I don't support Dean is because he said "I'm the candidate for people with Confederate flags on the front of their pickup trucks!"

It's not that I think the statement is all that bad-I know he wasn't being racist. It's just that we have to keep in mind that he'll be attending peace talks, maybe between India and Pakistan, for example. If he screws up there, we're all screwed.

Public speaking is definately the second-most important part of a candidate, when I consider him, and Dean could not speak in public. Of course, neither can Bush, but that's another story.

[HillBilly]

Bush can't speak, period

[I_luv_saber]

Originally Posted by civiltech

With all the negative media, and the frustration with George W., how can he still be in this race?

I don't understand. Is there something that Americans like about him that seems to keep him running alonside Kerry? Trying not to be sarcastic, but I'm really curious....

Because Mr. Kerry is as indecisive as a kid picking out 1 toy from a toy store. The man changes his mind constantly.
All politicians=idiots. At least now we have an idiot who can make up his mind...

[gojujay]

Originally Posted by jeff

I can't believe it's so effective....

It's what the MAJORITY wants right now, isn't it?

(in re: different thread... can't remember which one... need sleeppppppppppppp

[Soldier]

A friend once put it this way to me, looking at the actual meanings behind the names of the parties:

Democrats, by definition, work toward a democracy. The will of the people, all of them.

Republicans, by definition, work toward a republic. The government works for the good of the people, but by its own will.

In a democracy, the will of the people prevails...and that is ever-changing. So, for one to truly be a Democrat, they cannot stand for any value of their own.

[jeff]

Cute, but by no means representative of what the different parties actually stand for (especially since these definitions contradict the usual stereotypes that Democrats want more government and Replublicans less). Hey, I ended the sentence with a preposition - notify the sentence police!

[Soldier]

I know. But I just had to poke the gorilla.

[jeff]

Originally Posted by Soldier

I know. But I just had to poke the gorilla.

Me too - either politics *or* grammar

[telkanuru]

http://www.boasas.com/?c=389
^^^^relevant link

I hate it when cheney calls kerry a flip-flopper when he somehow supports gay rights while promoting a constitutional ban on gay marriage.