08-24-2004, 07:46 PM
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#41 | | Senior Member
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| Um...You mean like an.... open?
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08-24-2004, 08:11 PM
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#42 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by edew It was $35 for the longest time, so I'm guessing it was bumped to $40 after the last quadrennial, 2000. But strikes me as being $40 even before then.
I have been a life member since 1992, so I don't know how much the fee is.
If you know in your heart that you'll be involved in fencing for a long time (as I am), pay for the life membership. It's cheaper in the long run. | When I first got involved with fencing (1995) there was a junior rate that was lower than the senior rate. I thought they bumped up the price to $40 at the same time they got rid of the junior level (97-98 season).
Life membership is well worth it.
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08-24-2004, 08:14 PM
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#43 | | Senior Member
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| No problem...I'll just pull out $1000 of pocket change and be a life member.....piece of cake. | |
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08-24-2004, 08:29 PM
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#44 | | Senior Member
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| Funny but one of the guys I fenced against in High School conned his folks into buying him a lifetime in the AFLA back in the seventies. It was like....hundreds of dollars.
Man......what a good move that was.....close to thirty years later and he's still fencing.
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08-25-2004, 12:29 AM
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#45 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by fencergal33 No problem...I'll just pull out $1000 of pocket change and be a life member.....piece of cake. | Which is why they're considering making it payable in installments.
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08-25-2004, 05:17 AM
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#46 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
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Originally Posted by oiuyt Mostly what you're buying with your membership is general administration of the national office, membership services...marketing...and volunteer administration | Are any of the USFA positions salaried, or are they all volunteer still? | |
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08-25-2004, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott Allen Abf If they really wanted to discourage fencers from joining the USFA then they ought to be drawn and quartered. | My speculation was aimed more at the entry and weapon fees for NACs and Nationals than the price of membership... | |
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08-25-2004, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by OffTarget Can anyone tell us how long the fee was $40? Maybe its just inflation. | Dubious. From $40 to $50 is a 25% increase. Inflation has not averaged 6.25% a year over the last four, assuming that's the last time the price was raised. In fact it's been less than half that.
More likely it was chosen because $50 is just a nice round figure....
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08-25-2004, 05:29 AM
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#49 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
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Originally Posted by FoilyGeezer Funny but one of the guys I fenced against in High School conned his folks into buying him a lifetime in the AFLA back in the seventies. It was like....hundreds of dollars.
Man......what a good move that was.....close to thirty years later and he's still fencing. | It was $300 when I bought mine. That was in 1987. I have plenty of friends who kicked themselves for not doing it before they raised the price.  | |
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08-25-2004, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Inquartata It was $300 when I bought mine. That was in 1987. I have plenty of friends who kicked themselves for not doing it before they raised the price. | Damn, it's $1,200 now. Without factoring in the cost of money, that's 24 years to break even...
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08-25-2004, 07:30 AM
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#51 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
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| Well, but it's bound to go up even more in future, which will hasten the happy day somewhat...
Were you thinking of giving up the sport before they put you in a home or something?  | |
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08-25-2004, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Inquartata Are any of the USFA positions salaried, or are they all volunteer still? | Mike Massik, Jeff Cohen (formerly Carla Richards' position), Christine Simmons, Chris Cuddy, Dana Brown, Robert Dumcum, Lana Hunt, and several others are paid staff members. David Sapery, the webmaster is a volunteer. All the committee members (who are not a staff person) are volunteers.
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08-25-2004, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Army Fencer Are you going to have a backyard next year? | Next year's location will be my new front lawn. As you speculate, I won't have a backyard.
-B :)
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08-25-2004, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FoilyGeezer I'm so THERE Brad! The only thing I ask is that you let me sell bottles of my new performance enhancing malt beverage, to help me defray the entry fees. It's cold, refreshing and if you drink enough of it you'll feel just like Sanzo (in Sydney). So folks, plan to get your fencing goggles on, because as King Henry said at Agincourt "If you can't get pi$$ed and stab a few foemen, what's the point in going all the way to France?" (or something to that effect).
BTW the aformentioned sports drink will be bottled in familiar Samuel Adams bottles and will be available for a mere $10 a bottle (a small price to pay for a shot at being a legend (at least until we get the photos developed)).
!!!!! :blah: | Be my guest, but please be aware of whatever various state and local laws might regulate open containers and/or the serving of your performance enhancing malt beverage to those under 21. Or for that matter for selling of such substances at all without any potentially required license. And remember the potential for individually negotiated "in-kind" entry fees.... :)
-B :)
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08-25-2004, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by whtouche Um...You mean like an.... open? | You might not believe this, but I hear that Brad's having one of those. Crazy. | |
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08-25-2004, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by whtouche Um...You mean like an.... open? | Like an open, except thats its on the national level, you dont need to qualify, and its for both sexes.... with all the hype of nationals, lots of vendors, all that sorts of stuff.
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08-25-2004, 06:26 PM
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#57 | | Senior Member
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| So, Nationals with more people and worse orginization. Brilliant! Why didn't I think of it? | |
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08-25-2004, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by telkanuru So, Nationals with more people and worse orginization. Brilliant! Why didn't I think of it? | maybe where you sign in the night before and then the next day you just show up and fence.
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08-26-2004, 05:37 AM
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#59 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
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Originally Posted by edew Mike Massik, Jeff Cohen (formerly Carla Richards' position), Christine Simmons, Chris Cuddy, Dana Brown, Robert Dumcum, Lana Hunt, and several others are paid staff members. David Sapery, the webmaster is a volunteer. All the committee members (who are not a staff person) are volunteers. | Thanks. I thought some of them must be. Do we know what the salaries are, or are they buried in the accounting numbers in the interest of "privacy"? Do we at least know whether they are competitive within the nonprofit world? | |
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08-26-2004, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Inquartata Thanks. I thought some of them must be. Do we know what the salaries are, or are they buried in the accounting numbers in the interest of "privacy"? Do we at least know whether they are competitive within the nonprofit world? | Total amount for "General Office Administration", which is the only line item large enough to cover salaries, was $220,000 for 03-04. Not sure what else goes into that other than salary. It'll be $240,000 for 04-05. I suppose an additional salary (or even theoretically two I guess) could be a portion of the $70-75,000 for "Member Services Administration."
What's competitive with the nonprofit world?
-B :)
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