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TheArmourer · 08-23-2004, 04:42 AM

I use superglue for wiring weapons and am occasionally in sufficient haste (aka clumsy) to end up getting it on my fingers &/or jeans.

At the moment, I just use a pummis stone to get it off my fingers and resign myself to anther pair of wrecked denims .

Superglue remover has been around for a few years now but I've never used it, so has any one else got experience of it?

Zilverzmurfen · 08-23-2004, 05:01 AM

...not sure what it's called in english, but aceton worked excellent when I accidentally superglued thumb and index finger together...

Inquartata · 08-23-2004, 05:02 AM

Acetone, AKA nail-polish remover.

TheArmourer · 08-23-2004, 05:14 AM

Acetone is a chemical name so it's called the same here. I've not had great success with it (or more dilute nail-polish remover) on superglue.

Inquartata · 08-23-2004, 07:05 AM

I wonder is more superglue wouldn't dissolve it enough to make it possible to wipe it off before it set again?

reposte · 08-23-2004, 07:27 AM

Acetone is definately the best seeing as it stinks the least and evapourates itself.
I also use it to remove wires from the blade when I reglue a weapon.

You can use something stronger like tinner or is it (thinner in English?) for the hands but don't use it on the blade - it'll take the anti rust cover right out of the blade.

Armuorer, maybe you don't let it work for enough time.
I leave my blades for an overnight dip in a closed tube filled with Acetone.

Mergs · 08-23-2004, 09:06 AM

There is also a non-acetone nail polish remover. Takes a little longer, but basically does the same job. If your GF has acrylic nails, ask her about it (it's the only thing to remove polish from them). Good luck, and try to be a little more careful with the superglue!

TheArmourer · 08-23-2004, 10:23 AM

Just to clarify - I'm not worried about using it to remove wires (I find a Stanley knife does that fine).
Maybe I do just need to be a bit more carefull with the super glue Mergs, having fingers stuck togeather does hamper typing, and as for getting a fencing glove on

reposte · 08-23-2004, 10:35 AM

A Stanley knife...?!

Barbarian...

MyraTrue · 08-23-2004, 11:31 AM

Stanley knife... that was the item of choice when I fenced in Wales too. So we spend hours sitting on the floor with a couple of foil blades, chipping away at the wires that were so firmly ground in they were never ever coming out... I admit I really appreciate my acetone bath.

Louweasel · 08-23-2004, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyraTrue

Stanley knife... that was the item of choice when I fenced in Wales too.

Couldn't you just fence with a foil/sabre/epee like the rest of us?!?!

neevel · 08-23-2004, 12:42 PM

Superglue remover is just a gelled acetone. It takes time to work, but the advantage is that it'll "dwell" on the spot where you apply it, so you don't have to immerse it in acetone or keep pouring pure acetone on the spot.

For getting rid of glue on fingers, nail-polish remover (which has acetone in a lower concentration) will probably be best- while acetone is less toxic than many other common household chemicals, I wouldn't want to soak my skin in it. Actually, so long as you hold your fingers apart so the CA drys before bonding them together, you can just leave it there without removing it. The glue will crack and flake off in a couple of days, no harm done (paramedics will often use superglue to seal up cuts until stitches can be put in, and there are a some medical CA compounds out that a specially designed for that use).

I find gelled remover best for taking care of wires that have been accidentally glued to the tang. Apply the get, let it work for a half-hour or so, and you'll be able to pull the wire free of the tang.

-Dave

geezer · 08-30-2004, 02:36 PM

* have a small drip bottle of acetone ready, for the fingers, and finetuning
the mistakes
* a small piece of teflon, as an aplicator, won't stick with Superglue
* dowsing with water stops the reaction, hydroxyl ion etc...you can dry it
and continue
* Superglue doesn't like heat

TheArmourer · 09-06-2004, 11:17 AM

geezer - What exactly do you mean by a piece of teflon? I know it's PTFE, but so are Plumbers Tape, Gortex and non-stick frying pans, none of which seem apropriate

Sorry for the delay in replying - been on holiday.

Mergs · 09-09-2004, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheArmourer

geezer - What exactly do you mean by a piece of teflon? I know it's PTFE, but so are Plumbers Tape, Gortex and non-stick frying pans, none of which seem apropriate

Sorry for the delay in replying - been on holiday.

You can get PTFE in sheet, I suspect that he has a small piece, 1mm x .5mm x30mm or so. Also probably NASA fight grade.

You can also pick that up at some home improvement stores. It makes great slides for drawers.

geezer · 09-10-2004, 02:56 PM

Greetings, Armourer, you too Mergs,..your speculation is correct. In this case it's a stick shaped thingy, 1/4" OD, (+/-) 2" long. Probably available in many shapes and sizes. A shaped end (whittled with a pocked knife) to keep a wire submerged in the groove while the glue dries. I suppose you could shape an old glue tube cap (which I've done) but PTFE is so much easier.
Cheers!

TheArmourer · 09-22-2004, 08:57 AM

(sorry to keep dragging this back to the top of the board)
Geezer
I've had a look in several DIY / hardware / plumbing / model stores etc but unfortunately no one has any idea about PTFE stick shaped thingies. What purpose are they sold for?

suregrip · 09-22-2004, 04:00 PM

How about gel-instant glue? Locktite makes one that's cool. It's slow moving, won't glue you together in the process of wiring your blade, and cleans up nice.

ZenEpeeist · 09-22-2004, 06:16 PM

I used to use a heat gun and a knife to get rid of superglue from wires. That works well, but takes a while and there's too many fumes. Then I developed an allergy to superglue...

Someone recommended that I use "Fleche-Tite", which is a glue for archery, actually works better than superglue without all of the nasty fumes. Plus, it isn't as runny, which is great for not gluing the piece of wire wrapped around the threads (which has happened on some occations).

Acetone, as everyone else said, is the way to go...

geezer · 09-26-2004, 04:26 PM

Armourer, I REALLY wish I could help you, Mergs is correct...NASA related. (I came across a piece of throw-away material.) It's purpose was "clean room" material, no stick, complex chemical makeup not transferable by contact to things needed to be kept clean.

Mergs might have an idea, I'll see what I can come up with. Cheers!