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kalivor · 08-12-2004, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

just compare them to the pics of the volleyball girls.

Well, it's just been mentioned that the fencers are beginners. A couple of notes:

1. Athletic people tend to be more attractive. The volleyball team is clearly a team of women who have been playing volleyball for years. The fencing team is a bunch of beginners. You have athletes vs. people who decided to learn to fence (not athletes -- at least not yet). Again, you're not comparing people at the same level of sport. When it comes to attractiveness, fitness and nutrition matter far too much for such different levels to matter.

2. A fencing team is made up of four individuals. After the top four, it's just people taking up space and paying fees to help pay the bills. Perhaps, given that these are beginners at a University, becoming good enough to make the real team when others graduate. Even if the teams WERE on the same level, after the top four women on the fencing team, you're not looking at the same standards. As far as large group shots of single teams go, there OUGHT to be more hot volleyball players than hot fencers, simply because of the number of people expected to perform athletically (hence having better fitness levels and eating habits).

3. You're comparing a low-quality, out of focus, poorly lit picture, to well-lit, in focus, and perhaps professionally done photos. If you put those volleyball players into poorly-fitting fencing jackets, and took an out-of-focus, poorly lit picture of them, they wouldn't be looking so hot, either.

4. The three photos you're using constitutes a fairly small sample size, don't you think?

It's like arguing that fencing girls are hotter by using two professionally shot photos of the Polish women's foil team, and an out of focus picture of the women from the local co-ed "beer league" volleyball team.

Tireur · 08-12-2004, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Inquartata

Ah, no...no, we do not...and in fact we wish you would stop moving out of there are trying to turn the places where we DO live into California East...

Or New York South!!!!

sabreur · 08-12-2004, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Tireur

Or New York South!!!!

I thought Gen. Sherman already took care of that...

MR

CutLass · 08-12-2004, 11:50 AM

It's all in what you like to watch.

You're so right, athletic people are way better eye candy!

ReverseLunge · 08-12-2004, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kalivor

Well, it's just been mentioned that the fencers are beginners. A couple of notes:

1. Athletic people tend to be more attractive. The volleyball team is clearly a team of women who have been playing volleyball for years. The fencing team is a bunch of beginners. You have athletes vs. people who decided to learn to fence (not athletes -- at least not yet). Again, you're not comparing people at the same level of sport. When it comes to attractiveness, fitness and nutrition matter far too much for such different levels to matter.

2. A fencing team is made up of four individuals. After the top four, it's just people taking up space and paying fees to help pay the bills. Perhaps, given that these are beginners at a University, becoming good enough to make the real team when others graduate. Even if the teams WERE on the same level, after the top four women on the fencing team, you're not looking at the same standards. As far as large group shots of single teams go, there OUGHT to be more hot volleyball players than hot fencers, simply because of the number of people expected to perform athletically (hence having better fitness levels and eating habits).

3. You're comparing a low-quality, out of focus, poorly lit picture, to well-lit, in focus, and perhaps professionally done photos. If you put those volleyball players into poorly-fitting fencing jackets, and took an out-of-focus, poorly lit picture of them, they wouldn't be looking so hot, either.

4. The three photos you're using constitutes a fairly small sample size, don't you think?

It's like arguing that fencing girls are hotter by using two professionally shot photos of the Polish women's foil team, and an out of focus picture of the women from the local co-ed "beer league" volleyball team.

nah, lets cut the bs. Most American fencing females are pretty fat and ugly. If they were hot then they would be doing volleyball or cheerleading. The best looking girls don't do any sports at all.

kalivor · 08-12-2004, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

nah, lets cut the bs. Most American fencing females are pretty fat and ugly. If they were hot then they would be doing volleyball or cheerleading. The best looking girls don't do any sports at all.

Yes, I hear the cry of "I wish I were a volleyball player, but I'm just too ugly," all the time. As for the most attractive women not doing sports, I'm sure you can come up with examples of who you find most attractive, but I can now guarantee that it won't be the same as my list.

ReverseLunge · 08-12-2004, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kalivor

Yes, I hear the cry of "I wish I were a volleyball player, but I'm just too ugly," all the time. As for the most attractive women not doing sports, I'm sure you can come up with examples of who you find most attractive, but I can now guarantee that it won't be the same as my list.

If your list is full of fencing women then no.

mrbiggs · 08-12-2004, 05:09 PM

First, I would like to point out to Max that if he gave both his nuts, sleeping with her would be kinda pointless.

And I recall from an earlier thread that ReverseLunge is married. Are you looking for our opinion on the issue, or having trouble finding seconds?

(That was a joke. Thus the jester face.)

gojujay · 08-12-2004, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

just compare them to the pics of the volleyball girls.

Tell ya what... you spring for a professional photographer, like the volleyball team pics, makeup artist and all that rot. Then we'll do a comparison. Or get a snapshot of the volleyball team right before practice (or after as you like).

ReverseLunge · 08-12-2004, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gojujay

Tell ya what... you spring for a professional photographer, like the volleyball team pics, makeup artist and all that rot. Then we'll do a comparison. Or get a snapshot of the volleyball team right before practice (or after as you like).

The volleyball girls have better faces and bodies to begin with.

civiltech · 08-12-2004, 05:36 PM

All we can all speak on is experience. Forget being politically correct for a minute.

In my experience, the vast majority of fencing girls are unattractive. But it's the same for the guys as well. They are nothing to write home about either.

However, there are always some attractive women out there. Statistically, you are bound to get one for every x number of uglies.

I remember reading the threads from everyone oggling Zelda, and Myrridens when they posted their pictures some time ago!

My old instructor, though a true gentleman, had ladies falling over him. I think that the ratio of good looking vs. not so much is much higher for our sport than many others......that's a no brainer....but why would be a good question.

Not as bad as SCA though!! God have mercy on those zit faced immature 40 something! (not a sport, more like a D&D convention eh? )

civiltech · 08-12-2004, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

Now check this out! These volleyball babe are dressed up as little fire chief waiting to put out our fires!
http://www.tsjc.cccoes.edu/Sports/Vo...volleyball.htm

Like we get that in fencing.

I don't know what a junior college is, but I think I'm gonna inquire about Tuition costs today.

(Heres hoping it in Trinidad and Tobago!)

achilleus · 08-12-2004, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by civiltech

However, there are always some attractive women out there. Statistically, you are bound to get one for every x number of uglies.

I remember reading the threads from everyone oggling Zelda, and Myrridens when they posted their pictures some time ago!

My old instructor, though a true gentleman, had ladies falling over him. I think that the ratio of good looking vs. not so much is much higher for our sport than many others......that's a no brainer....but why would be a good question.

Things to consider:

1) Most people (including women go figure...) are average. That's what makes the beautiful people/women exceptional. That you don't see them as much as the others.

2) Assuming the above to true, it makes sense that most practitioner's of any sport are average with a small percentage being above average.

3) Since fencing is so small compared to other sports of course the ratio of exceptional looking people to average looking people may not be that small. Example, in tennis I can think of 2 women who also can work as models. Sharapova and Kournikova. In fencing I can think of at least 3 off the top of my head. Flessel-Colovic (french model, very popular in France), Gruchala, Monplasir used to model and was featured in numerous Adidas ads, and I believe there was one Asian who specifically did hair ads. You know like those Pert comercials (I spend 15 touches ruining my hair [fencer rips off mask], and 15 seconds bringing it to life [shows up all gorgeous]). Let's also not forget that we had a Playboy Centerfold. OK, she was a former nationally ranked fencer, but still...

4) Lastly, it really is opinion. Personally I don't find Sada attractive, but every non fencer who sees her photo in Time asks me about her. They mention how great she looks. Even the ones from CA.

So is the fencing ratio off? I doubt it. I've seen the Spanish WE team from a couple of years ago. And the Candian WE team from a couple of years ago as well.

And the Swiss team...

ReverseLunge · 08-12-2004, 07:23 PM

Ok. Can anyone post a few pictures of pretty fencing girls? I admit the pollock girl looks good but that's the only one I have seen and she is more like porn star pretty than super model pretty. I would especially like to know who the Asian hair model fencer is. I think Asian women are beautiful but I have nevr seen a pretty Asian fencer girl. They are alway super short with really stocky figures.

cornflower · 08-12-2004, 07:33 PM

I agree, asian girls are usually super-short, and when they're sporty - stocky. I should know, I live in Vancouver, and it's pratically 60% Asians. (Not meant to offend or anything, it's just TRUE) AND there's no mention of GUYS in here!! Come on!! GIRLS... bring up the hot guys in Fencing!

achilleus · 08-12-2004, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cornflower

I agree, asian girls are usually super-short, and when they're sporty - stocky. I should know, I live in Vancouver, and it's pratically 60% Asians. (Not meant to offend or anything, it's just TRUE) AND there's no mention of GUYS in here!! Come on!! GIRLS... bring up the hot guys in Fencing!

Did you notice the Chinese WE team at the 2000 games? Short and stocky they are not. I just randomly checked the bios for one chinese girl for 2004, and she was listed at 5'10" 150 lbs. No photo, but short and stocky is not all there is...

The one asian WE I know personally in the states is 5'7" and about 120 lbs. Short and stocky is not how anyone describes her. In fact, she's been offered several small time modeling gigs. She's not really competitve, local only...

cornflower · 08-12-2004, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by achilleus

Did you notice the Chinese WE team at the 2000 games? Short and stocky they are not. I just randomly checked the bios for one chinese girl for 2004, and she was listed at 5'10" 150 lbs. No photo, but short and stocky is not all there is...

The one asian WE I know personally in the states is 5'7" and about 120 lbs. Short and stocky is not how anyone describes her. In fact, she's been offered several small time modeling gigs. She's not really competitve, local only...

Interesting. Not that short and stocky should be a stereotype, of course.

ReverseLunge · 08-12-2004, 08:12 PM

You see? I asked if anyone could post pictures of pretty fencing girl and nobody can.

achilleus · 08-12-2004, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

You see? I asked if anyone could post pictures of pretty fencing girl and nobody can.

Riiight. Once again RL, I bow to your superior brain power.

I can find photos online and I ain't a computer genius. You are so desperate to see what you consider an attractive fencing female, you can search online, or spend the money to go to tournaments yourself.

cornflower · 08-12-2004, 08:22 PM

Sylwia Gruchala of Poland:
http://www.jer53.friko.pl/obrazki/Sy...ruchala_07.jpg

and add the "ylwia_" to the URL (including underscore)... for some reason that part isn't showing up.