Need cheap club equipment

[vincikai]

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Hi fencers out there i am planing to host a yoth fencing beginer lessons during the rest of the summer.
so if you have any extry old usedble mask/ jacket for kids size or adult size
that you dont use all that much, please sell to me in a low price ;p.

my email mosquitonvincikai@yahoo.com

also if you know where can i buy cheap clubuse mask /jacket
would be most appreciate. i do have BG in mind tho ;]



ps. if you know anything or law thats against a 17 years old teanager with friends to give fencing lessons to kids plz tell me. also any tips in mind for a newbe like me?


pss.
""My Motivation in doing this: As common knowledge fencing is an enormous costly sport, and unlike many other HS school my HS school team is not exactly rich in money, in fact many of our team equipments are need to be replace. (The whole team six people shared two old working electric foil in the big city play off, well you get the idea ;[ (that was just playin sadd) .) So I really appreciate to have an opportunity to earn some basic gears for this year’s team.""

[Talyn]

If you talk to some vendors they might give you a discount, uhlmann was particularly helpful a year ago when I had a large order.

Concerning the legality of a 17 yr old teaching classes...

Well, off the top of my head I'm assuming that you will need insurance just incase something goes wrong. And I'm pretty sure they don't give to people without some sort of coaching qualification. I could be wrong, but I know that in Australia you can't just start coaching fencing without permission from the state fencing association.

Another question is, do you really think you're qualified in giving these kids lessons? How long have you been fencing? Do you have a coach of your own from whom you recieve individual lessons?

I'm almost 17 and I wouldn't dare giving classes to kids unless my coach was there with me - advice is one thing but classes is completely different.

[vincikai]

thanks for the reply
lol i only been fencing for two years i fence foil and epee, but i have became a person who eats fencing everyday so i dont thk necessary fencing knowledge would be a problem.i also have few 6 fencing cd-rom and dvds that i brought, i guess these cd roms could help me greatly.

1.i tink i can let them sing a waiver, that should clear up the problem number1
2. i will have my fencer friends to help me duing the class.
3.i have been teach both art and chess classes in a certain summer camp for two summers now so i thk i can really do this.
4. Ps i asked my coach and he say "by all means" watever that mean lol

[Elemental]

1.i tink i can let them sing a waiver, that should clear up the problem number1

If you can convince everyone to SING a waiver then you are extremely persuesive.

In all seriousness. I would say that if you can comfortably direct a bout (within reason, we all have our "what the!?!?" moments) then attempting beginner classes would be okay. I have been wanting to coach since I started fencing but I am not comfortable enough with my fencing knowledge to pursue it yet.

You may want to check out what the rules are for teaching classes in your area. Some states/cities/counties are weird about licencing and what not. Even if it's not for any form of profit.

Whatever path you take, Good Luck.

[Talyn]

Can't you convince your coach to give like 1 introductory lesson to the kids? with you as assistant coach just so that you get the feel of things...

I'm not questioning your ability but I think it would be in everyone's best intrest if you had some initial supervision

[OffTarget]

2 points of advice:

1) in new york - get insurance. Even if your students sign a waiver, they will still sue you if they get hurt, particularly if there is an equipment malfuntion.

2) make sure the students and the parents are aware of the nature and dangers of fencing, even just the physical demands of the sport. Always have a parent in with the student before the student starts fencing, make the parents sign the waiver. Make sure your waiver describes the nature and dangers in writing.

I'd hate to see you get in trouble trying to do a good thing.

[oiuyt]

Waivers are hard to enforce. Most of their utility comes from the fact that people who sign them don't bother to go to court rather than any standing once the case is in front of a judge. Waivers signed by minors are particularly useless.

Where are you planning to host these lessons? How are you advertising them? Answers to questions like these might help us tailor any advice we give.

-B :)

[vincikai]

na~~~ forget about the post its not happening this year's summer its too short from now on. and i dont really have the time to do all the preparein things. ;p
i guess i will start one next summer then......


btw about insurance part if any one give me some informations or advices would be most helpful...

[NoFleche]

As a general rule (unless NY is different from most states), if you're under 18, any kind of a contract that a minor signs (incl. a waiver/release of liability) can be nullified. And you can't be a party to a waiver agreement either unless NY allows valid contracts with parties under 18.

If you are teaching through your high school and the school formally o.k.'s your classes at their facility, then the school can be sued if, heaven forbid, there is a broken blade injury, etc. (Not very likely that a parent will try to sue you though--unless you are very wealthy for 17!) Unfortunately, because you are a minor as well, you may have trouble getting insurance for this endeavor.

Just some info to think about--people are pretty sue-happy out there these days. . . Regardless, good luck and I hope you are able to work something out to share your love of fencing with new students.

[vincikai]

Owell atlest next year i will be 18 ;p