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    Prez, Allez...then what???


    What is the first thing you do after you hear the Allez? Do you advance, retreat? Why?

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    You "go!" (be it forwards or backwards - depending on how and who you are fencing - standing still is really not recommended...)

    Boo Boo

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    One _small_ step forward. The back foot should not cross the en-garde line.

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    If I'm at the on-guard line, I advance. Why? Because my opponent is too far away.

    If the bout is to resume after the ref calls "halt" and no touch was awarded, it depends.... I might retreat to get my head in order or advance to close distance or push my opponent back.

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    I bounce on feet/toes a bit to get my timing while I size up my opponent. Then I advance. I just feel like I'm more in control if I'm going forward.

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    Stand still and wait.

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    "He is a man of splendid abilities but utterly corrupt. He shines and stinks like rotten mackerel by moonlight." "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats."

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    Sabre - I start with a small jump, or advance, or jump-advance, or advance-jump, whether I'm planning to go back or not. Gotta sell my opponent on the idea that I'm likely to attack.
    Nov shmoz ka pop.

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    Depends on what my opponent's tendancies are. If he's a rookie and easily flustered b a sudden attack, a VERY fast crossover lunge usually gets him. if I plan to throw out a PIL, I'll always jump back and extend my blade to take right of way. 'Course, pulling off the PIL is another matter.

    Generally, I tend to go forward, since many directors will award a double touch to the guy who looks like he's attacking.

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    If we are both at the en garde lines, I always advance.
    If we are elsewhere on the strip, there are a ton of factors that determine what I will do after the director says "allez."

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    Short advance, then:

    a. Lunge, with a tempo attack to his arm, if he's made a big charging advance.

    b. Jump back so he finishes short, if I think he's trying to do a. to me.

    c. Ballestra if I want a simultaneous.

    d. Occasionally, flunge, with a really fast, strong extension to try to sell the director that I'm attacking first.

    e. Very rarely, a second intention quinte or terce parry, if he gives me clues about where he likes to attack.

    And then you can get into the tactical wheel things, moving from direct attacks to feint attacks, stops, second intention, finta in tempo, counter-time (or back to direct attack).

    The joy of sabre with a decent director and a decent opponent is that you have lots of room to play.

    Regards, Mark Ray

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