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    Of colour lame's, do they give your opponent an edge?

    Most all lame's are a light to dark silver. When worn over white, I myself don't notice too much of a colour difference.

    However, how about the brown TCA ultralights or the fany new Uhlmann blue and read lame's? Doesn't the start contrast between white uniforms and the lame' make it easier for a your opponent to keep their aim on target? It would seem to me that the colour would be a great point of reference from avoiding hitting off target.

    What does everyone else think?
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    I was kind of wondering the same thing. A friend of mine has a sabre lame that's damned near the same color as his uniform. From a distance, I can't even tell he has it on. does that make it less likely that his opponent will land on-target? In any case, I still want a colored one just because I think they're cool!
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    The only lame' I've ever seen that is really close to being white is a blade lame'. However, it is a cheap lame'. A clubmate of mine has one and it must be copper because its turning green around the collar after just a few months of use.

    I'd really like to buy the stretch foil lame' from TCA, but they are brown. I have no problem with the colour, but I really don't want to make it any easier to hit me by getting a lame' that sticks out like a sore thumb.

    The Uhlmann blue lame' would go well with all my gear since I am a blue fanatic. But the thing I've noticed with those Inex lame's is that they will tear the buttom of your bib up bad.
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    <<The Uhlmann blue lame' would go well with all my gear since I am a blue fanatic.>>
    Wash all your fencing whites with some nice brand new navy blue towels or jeans. Then the vest would match your clothing. I think you could do a light kahki somehow to match the brownish vests too....
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    [quote]Originally posted by Mo:
    <strong>&lt;&lt;The Uhlmann blue lame' would go well with all my gear since I am a blue fanatic.&gt;&gt;
    Wash all your fencing whites with some nice brand new navy blue towels or jeans. Then the vest would match your clothing. I think you could do a light kahki somehow to match the brownish vests too....</strong><hr></blockquote>

    The San Bernardino chairman accidentally did that with his uniform...when he's on the strip, he looks like Papa Smurf!
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    haha, very funny. I was referring mostly to the logos of my jacket and knickers, my mask, the grips on my foils and my bag.

    I don't want to be solid blue, I am not a smurf.
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    [quote]Originally posted by Purple Fencer:
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    The San Bernardino chairman accidentally did that with his uniform...when he's on the strip, he looks like Papa Smurf!</strong><hr></blockquote>

    It could be worse: a buddy of mine washed his uniform with a new Allstar glove...

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    I think I'll chime in with my 2 cents here:

    It really doesn't matter what color your lame is, as your opponent should really be more concerned with the distance between you rather than the color of your lame. However, the Triplette stretch, which my girlfriend originally wanted, is kind of slippery, and points can glance off of it rather than stick and depress the tip and set off the light. It's slippery, sort of. So is her pretty blue lame. If a blade doesn't hit just right, it can slip off of that, too.

    If there's a study that's been done relating to color as picked up by the eye that somehow has relavence to this, I am unaware of it (after a brief web search).

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    Thanks for letting me know.

    I'll bet that TCA is suddenly going to get flooded with orders for that lame'.
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    [quote]Originally posted by D'Artagnan1673:
    <strong>Most all lame's are a light to dark silver. When worn over white, I myself don't notice too much of a colour difference.

    However, how about the brown TCA ultralights or the fany new Uhlmann blue and read lame's? Doesn't the start contrast between white uniforms and the lame' make it easier for a your opponent to keep their aim on target? It would seem to me that the colour would be a great point of reference from avoiding hitting off target.

    What does everyone else think?</strong><hr></blockquote>

    I think that you should worry more about holding the french grip correctly rather than what color your lame is.

    Seriously though, fencers win at competitions not because of the color of their equipment, but because of hard work and luck.

    The color is just a fashion accessory, nothing more.
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    haha, don't worry, I've got it down.

    I know, but I was just curious if there was any type of phychological thing about different colours that might make it best to avoid the flashy lame's.

    After hearing that about the TCA stretch lame's, I probably won't buy it anyway. I hold fair play in too high a degree to use a lame' that is slippery.
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    [quote]Originally posted by D'Artagnan1673:
    <strong>haha, don't worry, I've got it down.

    I know, but I was just curious if there was any type of phychological thing about different colours that might make it best to avoid the flashy lame's.

    After hearing that about the TCA stretch lame's, I probably won't buy it anyway. I hold fair play in too high a degree to use a lame' that is slippery.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Then you might consider not using a new blade, because after all, the point might be smoother than that of the other guy's.
    Seriously, I'll take all the advantage I can get from equipment. If there is a lame that is more slippery than the others and is legal, why not use it if you like it? I don't think it's not fair play.
    What's not fair play would be to alter your equipment so that it doesn't obey to the rules, but having legal equipment that's better is no unsportmanship.
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    I'm more conserned with TCA's colored blades... Does it make it so your opponent will see them easier or not? As for those vests (lames are they?) it would seem that they would be able to tell if you were advancing in wouldn't it?
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    The colored blades represent different stiffness (and eventual stiffness). I personally like the blue ones.

    And no one lives near Murfeesboro.

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    Where'd you get that idea from?
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    um..... he's right, I have two blue blades, and they are both nice and stiff.
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    Are they really representitive of stiffness? I had always thought it was some sort of rust protection. I don't have much experience with them though, so I really couldn't comment. I'd be curious what others have to say about this, though maybe it should be in the Armory section of the site.

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    I agree with HilandDoug's answer. However, I will put it more rudely.
    If you are using the color of your opponent's lame as a guiding aide for your tip, then you totally suck and deserve to lose a bout 5-0 in under a minute with all flick attacks.

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    Why dont you just dress all black and fence in a dark room w/ black background, that will make you invisible, hahaha. Or you can wear all white and ..... <img src="graemlins/evild.gif" border="0" alt="[Evil]" />
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