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Old 07-03-2004, 08:02 AM   #1
ray and joan
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RE: [CFML] form vs. function

Dear All-wonderful explications on all sides. Re the
number of touches in the ideal bout: does anyone know
of a study of duels, which establishes an average
number of wounds per person or per duel? Seems I have
read of a number of duels in which both were wounded,
some more than once. Ray
--- "Brian D. Schenck" <bdschenck@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- 1@msfencing.org wrote:
> > Our three touch bouts usually last five minutes

> because with only three
> > touches/faults the fencers are more cautious, just

> as they would be if the
> > weapons were sharp. This cautious play results in

> plenty of time for
> > reconnaissance and the tactical aspects of the

> game. And again, for my
> > fencers, the form faults are rare occurrences

> which do not take second of
> > their attention away from tactics and strategy.
> >

> Thank you for further explaining your system Rez. I
> do agree that it would
> produce the results you desire -- and that if those
> results aren't the one
> someone wants, then this approach is not the one
> that person wants (for
> example, 5 touches better emulates the USFA's
> approach as well -- and I use a
> hybrid approach to this when working with those
> fencers interested in
> competition). Of course, most of the people I work
> with are primarily
> interested in recreational fencing, and not high-end
> competition or perfect
> form. Those who do want to fence competition I try
> to gear up the same as you
> (though, the goal being different, the techniques
> are ultimately different as
> well -- however much similarities may exist).
>
> Anyhow, to what extent is your assessment of faults
> systematic? I noted that
> you said that you tried to warn a fencer who commits
> a fault first, then apply
> the one touch penalty. Is this approach similar to
> the Yellow Card-Red Card
> approach? And therefore that one mistake is
> "accidental" and the second one is
> "problematic"? Are there any particular faults that
> are more serious -- so
> that rather than give the warning, it's an immediate
> touch against?
>
>
> -Brian
>
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