Names of fencing moves

[noodle]

To be fair to Kendo, one must note that the shout should come coincidently with the strike. Kendo's very big on correct timing; the hit, the landing of the foot, and the shout should all be together. It's not like you call your shot and then attempt to execute it while your opponent attempts to prevent it.

-B

its really not as difficult as it sounds...
it becomes like second nature after a while, kind of like knowing when you have ROW in foil.

[FoilyGeezer]

give them zenlike taiji names
beat 1-2 ==> needle to sea bottom
hesitation attack ==> tiger returns to mountain
invitation attack ==> grasp swallow's tail
marching attack ==> riding the tiger

Or how about this idea...Tie it all in with Sponsor Names to attract big bucks, with the most common moves being the most expensive to buy.

"And he attacks with a beautifully executed Thrifty Rent-A-Car to his opponent's 4, but is countered with a parry KFC, and then a Jack Daniels riposte! Dick, let's see that again in slow motion..."

[oiuyt]

its really not as difficult as it sounds...
it becomes like second nature after a while, kind of like knowing when you have ROW in foil.

I didn't mean to imply that it was hard to get the correct timing. I only tried Kendo for ~3 months (end of last summer, beginning of last season until fencing took over all of my time again), but I certainly never experienced difficulty with it. I was merely posting to counter the (common) misconception that the target calling occurs before the strike is attempted.

-B :)

[dunastor]

OK couldn't resist...

I You're using Bonetti's defense against me, ah?

W I thought it fitting, considering the rocky terrain

I Naturally, you must expect me to attack with Capo Ferro

W naturally - but I find Thibault cancels out Capo Ferro, don't you?

I Unless the enemy has studied his Agrippa - which I have.

[Schiavona]

But why try to create a nomenclature / identity for modern fencing based on eastern martial arts legacy? Its a bit like a middle aged white guy from the midwest getting a tattoo of tribal runes on his arm - doesn't come off as very genuine...

Sorry...guess I'm not in a romantic mood today.

That's why I suggested keeping to European themes.............

The Eastern stuff does sound great though

[Schiavona]

OK couldn't resist...

I You're using Bonetti's defense against me, ah?

W I thought it fitting, considering the rocky terrain

I Naturally, you must expect me to attack with Capo Ferro

W naturally - but I find Thibault cancels out Capo Ferro, don't you?

I Unless the enemy has studied his Agrippa - which I have.

OK, who HASN'T seen the Princess Bride more times than they can count?

[noodle]

i've only seen it once and it was only last year, almost two years after i started fencing.

[wflaschka]

That's why I suggested keeping to European themes.............

Western themes --

Marching attack (westerly direction) -- the Manifest destiny

The bind & disarm -- The Inquisition

The feint / preparation -- Exploring
The Point in Line -- Colonizing

The duck -- Proletariat's demise

Arguing the touch -- Democracy

/got nothin'

[Victor]

The Nike Compound Attack deceives the Adidas Parry every time.

"Son, you're not ready for the Delta-7 Red Stop-Hit manuever. It's dangerous. Timing has to be perfect. Only seven maestros and Jackie Chan have ever perfected the 'Delt,' and only after years and years of practice..."

[fencergal33]

In my club, we often come up with great names for certain moves....

Some of the best include:

The Raging Scorpion, The Peter Pan, and The Widowmaker.

[FoilyGeezer]

He performs The Parry Of Ambiguity with his 1d10 Vorpal Foil Of Invincible Ripostes!

[gojujay]

I like the old Italian names, especially Marozzo's names for his guards, Porta di Ferro Stretta, etc.

[noodle]

c'mon guys lets just go ahead and take it all the way:

i attack my opponent with my +20 epee of ogre slaying while performing the raging scorpion attack. i'll need to roll a d20 to perform a dexterity check, since the raging scorpion on this terrain can be a tricky task.

[FoilyGeezer]

c'mon guys lets just go ahead and take it all the way:

i attack my opponent with my +20 epee of ogre slaying while performing the raging scorpion attack. i'll need to roll a d20 to perform a dexterity check, since the raging scorpion on this terrain can be a tricky task.

Ahhhh but what if your opponent is wearing a +10 Lame Of Invulnerability?

--Nevermind. The Lame obviously doesn't work against epees

[oiuyt]

Personally I like the "Parry 3 1/2 from Heck" which was invented/named in response to the briefly locally popular "Parry 4 from Hell". The "Parry 3 1/2 from Heck" involves positioning one's sabre with the blade vertical in about the center of one's chest and hoping one's opponent manages to cut to the bell anyway.

Just for reference, the "Parry 4 from Hell" was a strong forward move while in preparation in a deepish 3 guard position. This frequently drew a direct attack to chest which was parried, while still quickly closing distance, with an extremely deep 4. The riposte was generally just a quick wrist rotation to tag the opponent's mask (the distance at this point was generally closing to about a foot separation between the fencers).

Note that I don't advocate either of these moves although I have landed touches from both of them in competition (P4fH can be fun when executed well, P3.5fH really shouldn't ever work, which, of course, makes it even more fun when it does).

-B :)

[Schiavona]

Personally I like the "Parry 3 1/2 from Heck" which was invented/named in response to the briefly locally popular "Parry 4 from Hell". The "Parry 3 1/2 from Heck" involves positioning one's sabre with the blade vertical in about the center of one's chest and hoping one's opponent manages to cut to the bell anyway.

Just for reference, the "Parry 4 from Hell" was a strong forward move while in preparation in a deepish 3 guard position. This frequently drew a direct attack to chest which was parried, while still quickly closing distance, with an extremely deep 4. The riposte was generally just a quick wrist rotation to tag the opponent's mask (the distance at this point was generally closing to about a foot separation between the fencers).

Note that I don't advocate either of these moves although I have landed touches from both of them in competition (P4fH can be fun when executed well, P3.5fH really shouldn't ever work, which, of course, makes it even more fun when it does).

-B

I've done this( the parry 4 From Hell) in both sabre and foil-it works really, really great if you're left-handed(like I am )

[Inquartata]

The problem with this whole idea is getting the fencing community in general to accept names for moves. For instance, when they prohibited the fleche in sabre a fellow in my club christened its reconstructed variation "the Flying Weasel". Alas, the general run of sabre fencers and coaches opted instead for the dull-as-dishwater alternative, the unharmonious "flunge".

And even if you could get the fencers to adopt a colorful term, just you try getting the establishment---coaches, FOC and USFA officials, much less the FIE---to go along!

[Schiavona]

The problem with this whole idea is getting the fencing community in general to accept names for moves. For instance, when they prohibited the fleche in sabre a fellow in my club christened its reconstructed variation "the Flying Weasel". Alas, the general run of sabre fencers and coaches opted instead for the dull-as-dishwater alternative, the unharmonious "flunge".

And even if you could get the fencers to adopt a colorful term, just you try getting the establishment---coaches, FOC and USFA officials, much less the FIE---to go along!

I've noticed this...............shall we say, lack of imagination? amoung my fellow fencers. Instead of 'Arrow's Fight' we get 'flick'. Instead of 'Flying Weasel' or *cough* 'Leaping Stag' we get 'flunge'. What gives?

[carlos]

Sure, if fencers argue forever about attacking while retreating, we're sure not going to agree on the nomenclature for the raging scorpion attack.

These names are great! And they would be a good addition for the holy grail of TV coverage...

[carlos]

Besides Martini A-Z, any other historical sources?