06-11-2004, 02:17 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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| Referee Test
I'm taking the Referee test in a few days, any tips? | 
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06-11-2004, 02:33 PM
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#2 | | Fencing Coach
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Amarillo, Texas
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| Mae sure you know the penalty chart inside and out.
Also read the question for what it is and don't try to read anything into it. Someof the questions are pretty tricky. | |
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06-11-2004, 02:36 PM
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#3 | | Fencing Expert
Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Angel, London
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| all the questions are on the USFA website - check up on them there... i've passed that same test in the uk so pm me if you have any probs | |
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06-11-2004, 02:51 PM
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#4 | | "The Judge"
Join Date: Feb 2003
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| all of the test questions come from the study guide.
here's the biggest tip i can think of:
look at all the questions and notice that they tend to be groupable. (i.e.: there are a number of questions involving blade breaking, stepping off the strip, et al) read over them, look for a common rule of thumb when it comes to a certain situation, and remember it. i took the test once a long whlie ago (and i wansn't really serious about it, i suppose) and failed general by 1 question because there was a 'group' of questions that i had a bad rule of thumb for, if you will. got them all wrong. easily passed the other indivial weapon sectoins, though.
good luck. and sabre is easy, take it even if you didn't intend on taking it  | 
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06-11-2004, 03:33 PM
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#5 | | Senior Member
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| Go to the FOC site for the study guide and read the rules book!
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06-11-2004, 03:50 PM
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#6 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by CarlKnoch Go to the FOC site for the study guide and read the rules book! | I totally second that. You gotta study from the study guide if you wanna pass.
GOOD LUCK!!!!  | |
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06-11-2004, 03:54 PM
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#7 | | Senior Member
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| Where can I find the study guide?
I am reading the rule book. | |
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06-11-2004, 03:55 PM
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#8 | | Senior Member
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| http://www.bdfencing.com/document/Study2003.pdf
the study guide is more like a cheat sheet than a study guide.
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06-11-2004, 03:58 PM
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#10 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by ShadowHuntr |
Cool. I found it on http://www.fencingofficials.org/Info...dy%20Guide.pdf
It's going to be a ***** to actually find the correct answers to questions like:
4. The distance required at the ends of a fencing strip in
order to provide a safe and level surface upon which a
fencer may retreat when crossing the rear limit is:
a. none
b. 1.5 to 2 meters
c. 1 meter
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06-11-2004, 04:13 PM
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#11 | | Senior Member
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| That would be B, 1.5 to 2 meters. | |
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06-11-2004, 04:16 PM
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#12 | | Fencing Expert
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| Personally I love the idea of having a range given as the minimum required distance.... :rolleyes:
-B :)
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06-11-2004, 05:36 PM
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#13 | | Senior Member
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| It doesn't say "minimum" distance
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06-11-2004, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dunastor It doesn't say "minimum" distance | ...let the surgical syntactic rules parsing begin....whee!  | |
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06-11-2004, 06:10 PM
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#15 | | Senior Member
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| haha, yeah, basically read the rulebook like 4-5 times, read over all the questions, and hopefully you'll be fine!
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06-11-2004, 11:01 PM
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#16 | | Fencing Expert
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| You're right that it doesn't say minimum distance, but it can be implied from the fact that we're not going to intentionally place something to interupt the safe and level run-off space to prevent that run-off space from going beyond 2m. Additional run-off is allowed, and generally present. The requirement is therefore for a minimum that must be allowed for.
Any other study guide questions that you have questions about? Might make for an interesting thread. Or at least a useful one for those studying for the test.
-B :)
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06-12-2004, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by oiuyt You're right that it doesn't say minimum distance, but it can be implied from the fact that we're not going to intentionally place something to interupt the safe and level run-off space to prevent that run-off space from going beyond 2m | Are you saying we must interpret the rules?!?!?! 
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06-12-2004, 10:22 AM
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#18 | | Senior Member
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| Interpret the rules in fencing?!? No one does that do they?
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06-12-2004, 01:53 PM
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#19 | | Senior Member
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| If you are taking the foil or sabre test, remember that "advance-lunge" is by definition one fencing time. If they want you to assume fencer X makes a two tempo attack, they will say something other than "advance-lunge." | |
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06-12-2004, 09:12 PM
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#20 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: TX en route to KY
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| Having just taken the test not long ago... I guess don't overthing the questions!!!
The things that got me and some other people are things like while the penalty chart says "hitting while falling" is a cardable offence, it isn't used and its an extreme situation that isn't addressed by anything on the study guide. And there have been some (recent, I believe?) changes to some rules I thought current- ie, foil grips do NOT have to be insulated any longer, and there is no penalty resulting in a bout being advanced to the last minute etc.
Read the rule book. If you don't, chances are REALLY good you wont pass. Answer all the questions on the study guide as best you can, ask about things you don't know. Um... take your time?
But seriously, good luck. Director (ref) training has done as much for my ability to ref as my fencing... its good for both. | |
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