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    Senior Member Array Black Jeebus's Avatar
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    I Hate Electrical Stuff

    This isn't really a question or anything. But I just thought I would vent in here about how much it sucks to have only a working lame. I have two electric foils, both of which are broken, and I have two body cords, and guess what...both of those are broken as well.
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    fix them?

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    Buy more stuff, it's the American way!

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    Could be worse - you could fence epee too, which always need fixing.

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    Oh yes - missing tip screws, A-C shorts, broken wires both along the blade and at the socket (I got the ultimate one recently - a wire breakage just below the barrel). Enough to drive you crazy

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    I used to share your feelings. As I got better at repairing, though, I look at it like, oh well, time to fix my weapon. I think I went through about 6 foil wires and an equal number of epee wires until I got it down correctly. It just takes a bit of time and practice. I think every fencer on this board who repairs their own stuff has or had a step during the repair process that they thought was horrific. For me, it was wrapping the wire around the nut in the socket and tightening it down.

    I used to dread that part, and virtually prayed through the entire process.

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    A sealed tip with no moving parts...

    Perhaps it is time to update fencing hardware. The link below shows a relatively new device on the mass market. The Everswitch is a sealed piezoelectric switch operating at 3-24V, and only $10-20. Aparently switches are set for varying amounts of pressure to trigger the circuit.

    Imagine - no more springs or screws.

    Trade Name
    Everswitch®
    Properties
    Explosion proof
    No moving parts
    Water proof
    Dust proof
    Virtually unlimited cycles (tested for 50 million cycles)
    Websites & Resources
    Baran Advanced Technology - varieties of Everswitches
    Radiatron Tactile Feedback Piezo Switch

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhoneth
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    Hey, that'll totally come in handy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inquartata
    Buy more stuff, it's the American way!
    Or change to sabre, lot less electric stuff to worry about...
    With infinite complacency men went to and fro over this globe about their little affairs, serene in their assurance of their empire over matter

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    don't worry, after you fix it for the 100th time or so it becomes almost reflex. . . I swear I can rewire foils in my sleep!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The0ne
    don't worry, after you fix it for the 100th time or so it becomes almost reflex. . . I swear I can rewire foils in my sleep!
    No...don't do that...you might glue the wire to the side of hte blade (right Eric??)
    Need fencing equipment? See me at H.O.M. Fencing Supply

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunastor
    Or change to sabre, lot less electric stuff to worry about...
    Goes without saying! It's the obvious choice.

    (Actually I thought of saying that, but I say it so often I thought I'd give everyone a break. )

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    So, where's the link?

    Could be interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by mhoneth
    Perhaps it is time to update fencing hardware. The link below shows a relatively new device on the mass market. The Everswitch is a sealed piezoelectric switch operating at 3-24V, and only $10-20. Aparently switches are set for varying amounts of pressure to trigger the circuit.

    Imagine - no more springs or screws.

    Trade Name
    Everswitch®
    Properties
    Explosion proof
    No moving parts
    Water proof
    Dust proof
    Virtually unlimited cycles (tested for 50 million cycles)
    Websites & Resources
    Baran Advanced Technology - varieties of Everswitches
    Radiatron Tactile Feedback Piezo Switch

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    i know when i fence Electrical all i can think about is dont brake my Electrical Stuff not my Electrical Stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig
    So, where's the link?

    Could be interesting.
    http://www.one-stop.co.za/switches.htm

    I looked it up - but didn't see any versions smaller than a dime in diameter. Now if they made a package that fit like a conventional barrel and connected to regular wires....Oh, and the "on " resistance is 10 ohms. Then there's still the no-travel issue and FIE's acceptance of a new design.
    Last edited by Artisan; 06-02-2004 at 03:07 PM.

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    http://www.everswitch.co.uk/

    no no no, piezoelectric switches can do a lot of things if they're custom created to do so. i think if these guys were willing to custom do some stuff for us which would effectively take over the market if done correctly, the cost to cusomize the tips would be nothing compared to the profit they could make

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    I tell ya, sometimes it feels like you can never get away from electrical problems no matter how much working equipment you have. The last epee event I went to, I went over and over my weapons to make sure everything was working..then for my seeding pool after I hooked up first bout I went through five bad reels on my side in a row that had to be replaced. Everyone who lost on my side must of been kicking themself after it happened for not realizing it in time.


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    I have to agree with Suregrip there. Learn to repair and maintain your own equipement. Once you get the hang of it, it takes very little time, and your equipment breaks less because you know how to maintain it.

    But let me put it to you in another way... A friend of mine once was asked by his mother WHY fencing (electric) was so expensive and he stopped, looked at her, and said,

    "Imagine you are buying highly sensitive electrical equipment, and then using it to beat the other guy about the head with." And we expect it not to break??

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    Weapon repair is a Zen experience. You can get someone to do it for you, or do it yourself. You don't have to like it, you just have to DO it. You can complain, that's OK, but you have to learn. It's like the world, it is a mystery, but the rule never changes. It's just the flow of electrons, or not. You can drag it out in time, or teach yourself to become fast, and detached. It's all technique.

    non illigitimi carborundum

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    Quote Originally Posted by geezer
    Weapon repair is a Zen experience. You can get someone to do it for you, or do it yourself. .... It's just the flow of electrons, or not.
    Please... write the book: Zen and the Art of Fencing Weapon Maintainence

    For some people, it helps to think about electricity as if its pluming - the pipes have to be connected to get the water to flow. If that doesn't help there is a lot of very clear info and accurate descriptions of fencing equipment at the How Stuff Works website:
    http://entertainment.howstuffworks.c...-equipment.htm

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