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Shouting "ELA!" "YES!" "EPA!" "HUA!" "SHORYUKEN!" "HAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII-KEEBA!"
Do you vocalize during your bouts, either while making the touch or immediately after? Do you do it intentionally (to psych out your opponent or to look like a badass), or is it an unconscious release? And if you don't, what are your thoughts on people who do?
I ask because I used to find this practice incredibly annoying when I heard it at tournaments (it's almost unheard of at my club). But then I picked up the practice (a good lusty "HUA!" after a good touch, or maybe just "HOO!"), and it's really helped bring some intensity that I never really used before. A second decade of excellence
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No because frankly it makes me feel like a right tw@t. I reckon it's like masks with designs on and other fancypants behaviour - you can only get away with it if you are DAMN good. Louweasel
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Can of worms+can opener=drseudo 
This subject has been addressed before, with much metaphorical shouting and finger-wagging. Do a search if you want to get more opinions than you will know what to do with.
In brief, I do not do it, and generally I find it ridiculous when others do it. In a few cases I find it annoying or even painful on grounds of sheer volume and pitch, but mostly it just makes me want to break out into laughter. Anyone who really wants to throw all dignity to the winds is well advised to scream and screech and bellow to their heart's content; others might want to content themselves with an occasional "kiai" at most...
IMO, of course. 
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It depends...
most of the time I'm just a really quiet guy (somewhat less on piste than off piste ), but when its a real intense bout, and I make a nice or important touche, I shout. It's more out of my own tension than to affect my opponent. With infinite complacency men went to and fro over this globe about their little affairs, serene in their assurance of their empire over matter
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im a quiet guy usually, but in close bouts and in epee (mainly not in foil because im defensive so a war cry parry riposte sounds dumb) but when i do it is usally "WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" or "EUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAA" "When my time on earth is gone, and my activies here are passed. I want they bury me upside-down, and my critics can kiss me @$$."
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During a bout some years ago , I yelled before i lunged. The hit total runied my opponent
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IMO, no fancypants behavior necessary or warranted.
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 Originally Posted by Inquartata Can of worms+can opener=drseudo
This subject has been addressed before, with much metaphorical shouting and finger-wagging. Do a search if you want to get more opinions than you will know what to do with.
In brief, I do not do it, and generally I find it ridiculous when others do it. In a few cases I find it annoying or even painful on grounds of sheer volume and pitch, but mostly it just makes me want to break out into laughter. Anyone who really wants to throw all dignity to the winds is well advised to scream and screech and bellow to their heart's content; others might want to content themselves with an occasional "kiai" at most...
IMO, of course. My club is one of the quiet ones....getting people to yell is like pulling teeth.
A few years ago we had a woman foilist pass through who SCREAMED on every attack. The funny thing was she sounded just like a cat who had its tail stepped on! The whole club would start laughing. She didn't mind, said she was used to people laughing. She said she couldn't STOP yelling.  John Matus
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Women foilists are the worst at screaming... Maybe if they would scream a little higher, we can hear them no longer... would be nice and quiet.
Better to have male sabreurs scream, they're not so bad... With infinite complacency men went to and fro over this globe about their little affairs, serene in their assurance of their empire over matter
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It's funny that this thread comes up now...
Recently, I have decided that it would probably make me a better fencer if I "came into my screaming self" as it were. So a few of my practice buddies and I have instituted "screaming practices". It's a fun way for us to get the timing and pitch of our yells down during drills, so we don't sound like idiots when we actually do it in a bout. Just a silly and fun thing for us.
As a side note...mine kind of sounds like "WAHHHHHHHHHH!"
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In a Veteran tournament I found myself across from a fencer from Italy who apparently screamed after every action - regardless of whether or not the action resulted in a touch. The funny thing is, I never heard any of the noise. I must have been so focused on the action because afterwards, people asked me how I dealt with the noise. What noise? I asked. I never heard the noise.
I guess screaming or shouting can rattle some fencers, while on others it will have not effect at all. I must be one of them. The only thing I hear is Fencers Ready? Fence! and Halt! Everything else is blocked out.
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What about some good old-fashioned "cho cho cho," "a-che," or "opa?" Those are my personal favorites, especially when I want to emphasize the point that I stole time.
I did not start shouting until recently, and I started doing it on purpose. It was 100% for myself, and not for external goals, such as influencing my opponent or the director (erg... referee). The thing is, I always had a problem tapping into my subconscious, so I tended to freeze up at competitions because of a lack of instinct, gut feelings, etc. -- all the things I have at practice.
Shouting was the only way to bring them out. It felt really dumb to do it at first, and I had to force it in a clearly conscious manner. But soon it became effortless, and drove out the "inner game" with it.
EDIT: I've never done it at practice, unless it was part of kidding around.
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Usually when its 14-14... I shout "Hadouken!" as loud as I can, it startles them and gives me a little bit of an edge. "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. And from this side only! The flight of a half-man, half-bird. Dinosaurs nuzzling their young in pastures where strip malls should be. Cookies on dowels. All those moment, lost in time. Gone, like eggs off a hooker's stomach. Time to die" -Phil Ken Sebben
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Originally Posted by dunastor Women foilists are the worst at screaming... Maybe if they would scream a little higher, we can hear them no longer... would be nice and quiet. i don't know...
women's sabreists (usually youngish ones) sound like they're being lit on fire. sabre's probably the best place to yell, also. row is harder to interpret there and directors are more likely to be swayed by yelling.
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i rarely ever yell, but when i do its because its an important point in an important bout. it may do something to my opponent, it may not. usually it does, though.
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Originally Posted by noodle i don't know...
women's sabreists (usually youngish ones) sound like they're being lit on fire. sabre's probably the best place to yell, also. row is harder to interpret there and directors are more likely to be swayed by yelling.
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i rarely ever yell, but when i do its because its an important point in an important bout. it may do something to my opponent, it may not. usually it does, though. no way. women's foil is SO much worse.
anyway, my take on screaming (as many of you know): To each his/her own. scream if you want, if you feel it helps you (as I feel it helps me).
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Originally Posted by epeemike81 no way. women's foil is SO much worse. kind of depends.
i can think of WFists that scream like crazy (quality)
but i think quantity-wise, WS beats it. usually seems to be the younger ones, too. i mean, i've watched a bout between two WSists who screamed after each hault and after the director made the call, no matter what. one of them in particular screamed "NO NO NO" after getting scored against but before the call. just struck me as weird, wouldn't you rather not scream at all or maybe try and convince the director you didn't get hit?
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This is a sports psychology situation. While I am not a sports psychologist I did study it some and was part of studies on this topic. Some people get very quiet when they become focused and others become more vocal. Those that become vocal show 'Psychological Arrousal', yes sometimes the jokes write themselves. Those who show this tendency become more relaxed and focused and use this to help themselves stay in that state. In the extreme, this condition has been called 'The Zone'. For those that do not vocalize when in competition they tend to block out all white noise and in their world only two people exist, the opponent and the ref. It's interesting to see this and be there when they snap out of this state.
Not for nothin', Brad, Women's Sabre tend to have the most screamers with the greatest volume.
Enjoy!
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You just described me. I block everything out to the extreme. Sometimes, I don't realize the bout is over and get back on guard. I only refocus when I see my opponent removing his/her mask. Once, a fencer blew out his knee on the strip next to me. They say he was down on the ground yelling in pain. I never heard him.
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I find the women's foilists the most irritating. They really shriek, and it's simultaneously funny and annoying because they're usually these perky people with pony tails who look as if most of their aggression is reserved for shopping. Most of the sabre fencers who scream seem somehow more authentic to me--except the ones who transferred from foil .
I, for some reason, say "hey-yo!" or "hai-ya" when I score, and it if it was a really good touch I say "Woof!" and have been known to march down the strip to the on-guard line continuing to growl.
All perceptive and pertinent remarks as to connection between my vocalization and my ancestry will be genteelly ignored. 
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