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    You can always tell when Inq's back, because all the political threads jump back to life.
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    Yes, it was pretty dull without a pointless debate! Welcome back, Inq.

    Inq: Hard to say, but I think the tendency has gotten worse. I don't think that JFK (won a Pulitzer while a Senator, right?) or Dick Nixon "played dumb".
    "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff
    I don't think that JFK (won a Pulitzer while a Senator, right?) or Dick Nixon "played dumb".

    If I remeber right, it's been a while, Kennedy only contributed a few thoughts to Ted Sorensen, who really wrote Profiles in Courage.

    Sorensen denied it, of course, but no one ever found any evidence of Kennedy actually authoring the book. Only a few notes and no one ever produced a Kennedy draft of the book.

    All this was investigated by Clark Clifford after someone accused Kennedy of having it ghostwritten for him.
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    For all I know that could be the case, though it strikes me that JFK had the literary skills needed for the task. I think McCain's recent book demonstrates that's it's possible that a Senator could actually do the job! The point though, is that writing such a book today could have had him labelled an "egghead" and would be a liability...
    "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different."

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    And somewhere along the line you all got lost in your little points and now a discussion about Rumfeld is talking about whether it's good or bad to act dumb when running for office...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier
    And somewhere along the line you all got lost in your little points and now a discussion about Rumfeld is talking about whether it's good or bad to act dumb when running for office...
    Thread drift. Ya gotta love it.

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    No, you really don't, not when it bogs down like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier
    No, you really don't, not when it bogs down like this.
    drifting it is, but bogged down it is not. otherwise it wouldn't drift...

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    And sometimes it's not a drift - it's a HIJACK! Arrgggh, ye scurvy dogs, the thread pirates have taken your thread away! (sorry for the outburst, I'll behave now)
    "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier
    You can always tell when Inq's back, because all the political threads jump back to life.
    But not ONLY the political ones: any somnolent thread to which I posted and was answered in my absence does so as well. I just feel this irresistible urge to riposte ( I wonder where I get that? ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff
    Inq: Hard to say, but I think the tendency has gotten worse.
    As is the wont of most tendencies, alas!



    I don't think that JFK (won a Pulitzer while a Senator, right?) or Dick Nixon "played dumb".
    No, but they were at pains not to be too closely associated with the cerebral classes in the eyes of the electorate, either. ( How far back does that stupid "Look-I'm-rolling-up-my-sleeves-I-understand-the-working-man" thing go, for instance? )

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff
    For all I know that could be the case, though it strikes me that JFK had the literary skills needed for the task. I think McCain's recent book demonstrates that's it's possible that a Senator could actually do the job!
    And how DO they find the time, in between campaigning, raising money to campaign and oh yes, occasionally doing their actual jobs?


    The point though, is that writing such a book today could have had him labelled an "egghead" and would be a liability...
    Depends on the book, I daresay. Rush Limbaugh has brought forth books, but who considers him an intellectual?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff
    I'll behave now)
    Yeah, one should always believe a pirate who says that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inquartata
    Depends on the book, I daresay. Rush Limbaugh has brought forth books, but who considers him an intellectual?
    he said "writing such a book," as in "a book such as Profiles in Courage."

    At least as far as i'm concerned, Rush has never written anything which comes CLOSE to the level of Profiles in Courage.

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    Hi!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tireur
    So, that's one traitor, one golddigger and one patriot.

    Hmmm. balance doesn't look too good here.
    Well, in Swedish he is running 0-3, so you are possibly more right than you thought.

    Have a nice time!

    Peter Gustafsson

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    Hi!

    Quote Originally Posted by Inquartata
    The impressions we have, or are shown, of our leaders only take hold because they resonate with the audience. And they only resonate when there is some basis in truth to them
    As the former sufferer of extensive school hazing, both mental and physical, I can assure that you are wrong.

    On the bright side, I have gone back to my home town as a grown-up, and seen some of my former tormentors piss-drunk (and I mean that literally) in the middle of the day. Their lifes are wrecked, and quite deservedly so.

    Peter Gustafsson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inquartata
    But not ONLY the political ones: any somnolent thread to which I posted and was answered in my absence does so as well. I just feel this irresistible urge to riposte ( I wonder where I get that? ).
    Don't you mean re-post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterGustafsson
    Hi!



    As the former sufferer of extensive school hazing, both mental and physical, I can assure that you are wrong.

    On the bright side, I have gone back to my home town as a grown-up, and seen some of my former tormentors piss-drunk (and I mean that literally) in the middle of the day. Their lifes are wrecked, and quite deservedly so.

    Peter Gustafsson
    Mmm, yes, hazing. I remember having my head bashed against a tetherball pole in elementary school...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterGustafsson
    Hi!
    As the former sufferer of extensive school hazing, both mental and physical.

    Perhaps you should talk about this in the "so much anger..." thread.

    I think I see where it comes from now.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier
    Mmm, yes, hazing. I remember having my head bashed against a tetherball pole in elementary school...
    And now, supported by superior firepower, it might be fun to even up the score!
    "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different."

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