Tense at qualifiers: Sectional champs as expected?

[Victor]

General observations and opinions, please: At your senior sectional championship events (for I-A qualification at Nationals), did you see a lot of suprising upsets in the final results? No need to name names, please. I'm just curious about how some of the top regional fencers react when they're under pressure to reach a major goal.

Our final tally in epee shows a couple of Cs and an E in the top eight (winning better ratings now, of course). They performed well; obviously, the As and Bs less so. ... No excuses for slippery floors, bad weather, blind refs. When the chips are down, you either produce or step aside.

[whtouche]

At least in sabre, the past few years at our sectionals have gone pretty much as expected.
This years haven't happened yet(this weekend, rochester NY) and it'll be interesting to see how things go. Most of the stronger sabre fencers are more this way than that (rochester is ~8 or so? hour drive) so it'll be interesting to see who makes the drive.
I know at least last years silver medalist will be in attendance.

[Peach]

In sabre, the Mid-Atlantic Sectionals were about what I expected, both in men's and women's. I called the gold medal bout in the women's before it started (between the 2nd and 3rd seed, the first seed being an aged A in more ways than one).

[Aeric]

Do you know where I could find the results of the Mid-Atlantic sectionals? I had to skip this year due to an injury.

[damianip]

Originally Posted by Peach

In sabre, the Mid-Atlantic Sectionals were about what I expected, both in men's and women's. I called the gold medal bout in the women's before it started (between the 2nd and 3rd seed, the first seed being an aged A in more ways than one).

However, in the M-A men's epee, there were quite a few upsets. Although the eventual winner wasn't that much of a surprise, along the way, some that were expected in the final eight never got there.

Paolo

[jeff]

Originally Posted by Aeric

Do you know where I could find the results of the Mid-Atlantic sectionals? I had to skip this year due to an injury.

Best data I have is at: http://www.fencinginstituteusa.com/divnews.htm

If I get more I'll repost here.

[Artisan]

Docurnent Engarde MEN'S EPEE
5/3/04 6:34:48 PM MM-ATLAWIC SECTIONAL CHAMPIONSHIEPS (MIEN'S EPEE)
SUNDAY, MAY 2ND, 2004
BUCKS COUNTY COMMUNITY COLLEGE

Overall ranking (ordered by ranking), page 1/2

ranking name and first name club Division USFA Classification
I KATSOFF James NYAC CPA AOI
2 BROWNGOLD Luke BCAF PBL D04
3 ROHRBACH James DCFC CAP C04
4 YAKIMENKO Andrei FAP PHL A04
5 MCGRATH Sean MEDEO NJ B04
6 ERBELE Isaac DCFC CAP A04
7 MEAKIM Brian FAP NJ C03
8 CZAPANSKIY Max DCFC CAP B04
9 KRAFT Dennis LIGONIER WPA B04
10 WAY Chamgshiou (Joe) FAP PHL B04
11 LEWIS Kyle MEDEO NJ B04
12 BANI Sean UNATT NJ C04
13 GANA Jorge AFC NJ E04
14 FERRONE James BCAF NJ BOI
15 ROSENBECK Noah DCFC CAP D02
16 CUTLER Matt DCFC CAP B03
17 WICAS Graham FAP PBL A04
18 O'DOWD Andy FAP PHL A02
19 RICHARDS Dick DCFC MD A03
20 FLINT James BCAF PHL A03
21 WISCHNIA Jacob FAP PHL D04
22 EISELT Michael AFC NJ C04
23 ZIELINSKI Daniel l@ffiDEO NJ C04
24 ARROWSMITH Alan BFC MD B04
25 HUEY Curtis BD HBG D04
26 SPIELBERG Joel FAP Si C03
27 ROGERS Chris LFA PHL D03
28 PAYE Gregory DCFC CAP B02
29 KLEIN Robert BCAF PHL coi
30 STILL Michael LILOV NJ C03
31 BUMGARDNER Jeffrey CDE PHL B04
32 CHERRY Alfred MEDEO NJ B03
32 HUDSON Jack BFC MD C04
34 HOLBROW Mark BCAF PHL B02
35 SNEAD Gerald BCAF PBL C03
36 KANE, JR. Edward BD HBO C03
37 VAN DEN BERGH Alexa MEDEO NJ D03
38 DAMIANI Paolo BCAF NJ EOI
39 GALLAGHER James FAP PHL D04
39 LEVY Paul UNAFT Si C03
39 SUNDAR Suneel BFC MD C04
42 SACKSTEDER TonY FAP PHL B04
43 TERREAULT Daniel MEDEO NJ D03
44 REDICK Sam MEDEO NJ E03
45 MICHNIEWICZ Richard LVFC NJ EOO
46 FITZPATRICK John FAP PBL C03
47 DATESMAN Aric FAP PIHL B03
48 HARPER Ryan CDEP NJ u
49 RIDGE John BCAF PHL D03
50 DOUGLAS Michael FIA-BALT MD D04
51 SCHIFFMAN Andrew BD HBG E03
52 FOLGNER Claus-Peter- WBF HBG E02
52 NAIDES Matthew BD HBG B03
52 SUSA Gregory ST. VINCENT WPA u
55 SULLIVAN Colin UNATT PBL C03
56 CAMPBELL Gregory FAP PBL u
56 MEIERfbomas UNATT NJ D02
58 FUCHS Brian LVFC NJ E03
59 MCMAHON Timothy VRFC CPA D04
60 LINDSAY J. Milton FAP PBL D03
61 TASKER Arjun BFC PBL C03
62 FIEDERLEIN Andrew SANTELLI NJ E03
63 GANZY Alexander LIGONIER WPA u
64 GOLDGAR Dirk BCAF NJ B03
65 MONK Samuel CDEP NJ D04
66 YUKICH Rudy FIA-BALT MD u
67 SHANER Jared BD HBG D04
68 TROYER James FAP PBL E04
69 FAN Ramond TRFC WPA u
70 HIROKAWA Jonathan CDE PBL E03
71 FAN Yung TRFC WPA u
72 SANTORELLA Chris FASJ Si E03
73 MARSH Alexander TWBC MD D04
74 BLANCHARD Aaron (Sa PRINCETON Y NJ u
74 LACOSTA Christopher AFC NJ u
76 GONZALEZ Reinaldo UNATT NJ D03
77 HENRY James FIA-BALT MD u

[Artisan]

MID-ATLANTIC SECTIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS (MENS FOIL)


Ranking name and first name Club Division USFA Classification
1 MOSELEY HuNTER BCAF NJ CO,4
2 HEIMANN Nickle FAP PHL B03
3 HENDRICKS Adm NYFC NJ BO-It
4 DORFMAN Benj BCAF NJ CO-4
5 ROGERS Chris. LFA PHL C04'
6 HOWARD Marcus FAP PHL CO-41
7 ROGERS Reese LFA PHL cost
8 CHO Kevin FASJ Si B04
9 WITTIG Jonathan BFC MD C04
10 MITROS Nicholas NYFC NJ CO-!
11 KAO Alex FC WPA B04.
12 LIGGIO Carl BFC MD BO--,
13 EISELT Michael AFC NJ Ctl-41
14 OUYANG Long DCFC CAP cod
15 MILLIGAN Bruce BFC MD AO 1.
16 PONTICFLLO Mario FASJ Si DO-4
17 MACLEOD Duncan BCAF NJ coi
18 STOCKDALE Nicholas FAP PHL C04
19 KANE, JR. Edward BD HAR C03
20 PACIA Adrian BCAF NJ D03
21 BROWINGOLD Luke BCAF PHL D04
22 GROSS Stephen BFC MD B04
23 BASSETT James MEDEO NJ D03
23 YUSEM Max CFC NJ C03
25 HENNESSY Daniel TRFC WPA C03
25 SCOTT Robert FASJ Si C04
27 CROWDER Andrew DCFC CAP B03
28 SEROTKIN Ian DCFC CAP C04
29 GURRIERI John FASJ Si C04
30 DANMLY Parker CCFC CAP C04
31 FLINT James BCAF PHL D03
32 DORFMAN Mitchell NMDEO NJ D02
33 BARTH David LFA PBL C03
34 GONZALEZ Reinaldo UNATF NJ E02
35 PANTEL Glenn MEDEO NJ D02
36 HUEY Curtis BD HAR D04
37 GOLDGAR Dirk BCAF NJ B02
38 KING Jeffrey FASJ Si E03
39 HUMMEL Trevor BCAF NJ E04
40 MINOTT Nicolas FAP PHL D04
41 HERRING Joshua Ws PBL E04
42 MARSH Alexander TWBC MD D03
43 RIDGE John BCAF PHL
44 FIDUCIA Gene FASJ Si D04
45 KRAFIDennis LIGONIER WPA E04
46 SHANER Jared BD HAR E04
47 GRAY Paul FASJ Si E04
48 SCBUTMAN Andrew BD HAR E03
49 ELLISON Patrick BD HAR E02
50 FAN Raymond TRFC WPA D04
51 FOLGNER Claus-Peter WBF HAR E04
52 HUBBARD-Dylan BD HAR u
53 HAYNES,&fithony OON MIE) u
54 WEIGANDT Erik LIGONIER VYTA E04
55 HUMMELL Eric BCAF NJ E04
56 BLANCHARD Aaron (Sa PRINCETON Y NJ u
57 YUKICH Rudy FIA-BALT MD u
58 FAN Yung TRFC WPA u
58 RICHER Justin FAP PBL u
60 COHEN Joshua FAP PBL u


more to come as time permits...

[Army Fencer]

Originally Posted by damianip

However, in the M-A men's epee, there were quite a few upsets. Although the eventual winner wasn't that much of a surprise, along the way, some that were expected in the final eight never got there.

Paolo

Yes, there were a few upsets.

The silver medalist was a bit of a surprise. And he only lost to JD 13-15. It partly my fault, but oh well.

They used the NAC format for the Mid-Atlantic Sectionals. That may have had an influence on what happened this weekend.

[mifencer]

Originally Posted by Army Fencer

Yes, there were a few upsets.

The silver medalist was a bit of a surprise. And he only lost to JD 13-15. It partly my fault, but oh well.

They used the NAC format for the Mid-Atlantic Sectionals. That may have had an influence on what happened this weekend.

Isaac, I hope you didn't break any more epees! Even though I don't know anyone out there (except I met Isaac once), you have to give Browngold kudos for finishing high... especially for a 'D' fencer.

[damianip]

Originally Posted by mifencer

Isaac, I hope you didn't break any more epees! Even though I don't know anyone out there (except I met Isaac once), you have to give Browngold kudos for finishing high... especially for a 'D' fencer.

Luke's not a "D" anymore! The kid has been on the verge of a breakthrough for a few months now and has been doing some "giant slaying" during that period.

He's a great kid and one of the most patient young epeeists I've ever seen. More cerebral than physical.

Katsoff looked a little baffled by Luke's style at first, but towards the end, seemd to be in control. Nonetheless, he was definitely not taking Luke too lightly.

BTW, I love what the organizers did to my name: Not only did they make me a female, but they mangled my last name beyond recognition. Luckily, it's hidden in the middle of the rankings.

Originally Posted by Army Fencer
Yes, there were a few upsets.

The silver medalist was a bit of a surprise. And he only lost to JD 13-15. It partly my fault, but oh well.

I assume that you are Mr. Erbele? You made it farther than most of the other A's. I was surprised at O'Dowd and young Wicas not making the finals, they looked pretty sharp earlier in the day.

Paolo

[Peach]

Originally Posted by Army Fencer

They used the NAC format for the Mid-Atlantic Sectionals. That may have had an influence on what happened this weekend.

Experience helped me with that. From NACs, I knew how to conserve energy in the first round so I had something left for the intensity of the second pool. The air was extremely humid and fairly warm (I lost five pounds of water weight even though I was drinking the whole time), but I felt great until I got home and sat down, so I figure I've been training right.

It wasn't as bad as the MAS in West Virginia a few back, where it was in the 90's and the third-place bout in the WS was fenced with rock-paper-scissors because neither fencer wanted to move.

[ShadowHuntr]

i fenced horrible at sectionals. was a little off, but that is besides the point. I was surprised how well the u-19 fencers did at senior sectionals for the most part. i had more to say but i forget

[Artisan]

Originally Posted by damianip

BTW, I love what the organizers did to my name: Not only did they make me a female, but they mangled my last name beyond recognition.

Paolo

Organizers changed your gender... me & OCR software...mangled your surname. Sorry

[damianip]

Originally Posted by Artisan

Organizers changed your gender... me & OCR software...mangled your surname. Sorry

It was the gender change that hurt the most. (maybe this should move the "cup" thread)


Paolo

[damianip]

Hey Artisan,

Thanks for "fixing" me.

Now, if you could only improve the number in front of my name...

Paolo

[Army Fencer]

Originally Posted by mifencer

Isaac, I hope you didn't break any more epees! Even though I don't know anyone out there (except I met Isaac once), you have to give Browngold kudos for finishing high... especially for a 'D' fencer.

Eh, I broke two just before Nationals, and then I got an FL blade, which seems to be doing a little better than my BF Blues.

I do have to give Browngold kudos. His timing and his tip were on.

We've met?

[Army Fencer]

Originally Posted by damianip

Katsoff looked a little baffled by Luke's style at first, but towards the end, seemd to be in control. Nonetheless, he was definitely not taking Luke too lightly.

I may have taken him a little lightly.

He did fence well. He would have gotten an A, too, if we had just had one more B show up. I hope he continues to do well, to fill out his newly earned rating.

I assume that you are Mr. Erbele? You made it farther than most of the other A's.

My secret identity has been revealed!! I made it pretty far, but I was a little frustrated that I didn't make it further.

I was surprised at O'Dowd and young Wicas not making the finals, they looked pretty sharp earlier in the day.

O'Dowd was knocked out, thanks to one of my teammates. Wicas was knocked out because JD barely made it out of the 2nd round of pools.

--
Peach--

I think the experience helped, but a lot of the fencers there haven't done anything like that before. The second round of pools and the DE's were a little random.