having trouble fencing short and cute people

[Artisan]

I think people have gotten what I have said confused.

3. Even though I bruise everyone, even the hotties, Its the hotties I feel bad about hurting.

7. Everyone seems to be under the impression that I fence badly against the ladies, thats false, its only them that I feel sympathy for.

Hitting hard = fencing badly
its that simple -
Has nothing to do with the lights, winning or losing.

That you regret / feel sympathy for hitting too hard and yet can't NOT hit hard means you are out of control.

Out of Control=fencing badly

Practice bouts are not for winning - they are for learning. Do you try to "beat" your coach in a lesson? There is a hard-hitter at our club. He beats me 75 % of the time in practice. He has not beaten me in a tournament yet (knock wood). Practice bouts mean nothing.

[D+F+P=Hadouken!]

As I mentioned earlier, I'm working on not hitting to hard, which of course means distance work. It takes time. And I realise that I am a bad fencer, I havnt been doing it very long. Okay, I'm a freekin kid.

[Haze]

when I get back into fencing again (after the summer, possibly) one thing I am really going to have to work on is fencing people taller than me (everyone). If I don't start learning to lunge/attack higher then its me who's going to lose some (male) friends.


And I agree, D+F+P, learn not to hit so hard! I have seen some very nasty cuts and bruises from an arrogant epeeist (not suggesting you are arrogant btw, but he sure is) and blood really shows up on a white plastron.
(sure you could bleach it out but then the rest of your kit looks grey, lol.)

[epeefencer74]

Look DFP, most people who fence know that they WILL be hit and sometimes it will be hard. They are prepared for it, as my old master used to say, "If you can't hack the pain, don't play the game", so since they are still fencing, that means it's alright to briuse them once in a while. Just apologise sincerly after that, make sure you don't hit them hard on purpose and you'll be fine. Also working on your form and distance will reduce the number of times you hit your opponent hard, but hey sometimes it happens, when it does don't feel too bad about it.

[telkanuru]

If you even look at them the wrong way, they will go home, giggle about your ineptitude to all their friends, who will then call everyone that they ever knew and tell them, and then you will never ever get a date (again). Seriously.

[Artisan]

As I mentioned earlier, I'm working on not hitting to hard, which of course means distance work. It takes time. And I realise that I am a bad fencer, I havnt been doing it very long. Okay, I'm a freekin kid.

Ah jeeze... sometimes text is so inadequate. Too easy to be misinterpreted. I'm not jumping on you.

Fencing badly is not the same as being a bad fencer. World champions can fence badly.

Now I dont care if I paint some average joe black and blue on the strip and he hates me forever and for all eternity

If you are working hard, then work hard to fence correctly against all your opponents, not just the ones you want to like you...
Has it occurred to you?
Everytime you post one of your emotional "help me " threads, people invest time in posting their comments for you, and you end up getting testy and defensive? Lighten up, or stop asking for advice.

[labouche]

You'd have to be really, really outrageous, impolite and obnoxious on the strip in order for someone to hold that against you. I think you're worried about a problem that doesn't exist. For better or worse, your personality has A LOT more to do with people liking you than your fencing.

Actually, I've had ADULTS, cop an attitude at me because I "flick too much". That always kinda annoyed me.......after all, why does it really matter how i fence?
elijah

[fencerontheline]

Actually, I've had ADULTS, cop an attitude at me because I "flick too much". That always kinda annoyed me.......after all, why does it really matter how i fence?
elijah

Was that a certain Demoor character?

[poor_nizzie]

having trouble fencing short and cute people.

How interesting...I have trouble fencing tall and aesthetically flawed people.
But my long, gangly arm (well, they're both long and gangly but only one holds the weapon) more than make up for my somewhat stubby legs.
Conversation with Myself, in a Random Dialect:
"And Oi am getting stronger, just look at me ahms!"
"Wot? They're like twigs, they ah!"
"Well, 'at's better than tyewthpicks, Oi'd sigh!"

[athena]

you are worried about them hating you because you hit them? being a short girl, i can't help you with the short part, but i hate it when people won't "fence" me. just fence them like you would fence anyone else. And maybe if you're nice too they'll admire you for it. i go to a tournament expecting to be hit and probably bruised, people are only offended if someone is intentionally trying to hurt them/ taking their anger out on them.

[PeterGustafsson]

Hi!

To the females reading this thread: If you were older sister someone like DFP, could you consider giving hime some hints and tips on how to deal with his hormones, and gals? Seems to me that he could use some of that.

Have a nice time!

Peter Gustafsson

[Tigerlily86]

I dont know about other fencers, but ive never hated someone for hitting hard in a bout. And about the whole being afraid to give "chicks" bruises thing. Dont think girls cant take just as much pain as guys can. If anything, i would be insulted if you went easy on me because i was a girl.

[electricepeeist]

There's one fencer my age at my club who always hits too hard and bruises me. Do I hate him? No. We're friends. He just has a bit of a distance problem, which it seems that you have as well. Eventually, with more experience, you'll hopefully start hitting people with too much force. If he went really gentle on me because he was afraid he'd hurt me, then I'd get pissed. I've had guys do that before, up to where they were apologizing for a tiny hit that I barely felt. That kind of thing is what annoys most girls, because it's condescending. Also, if I'm fencing a cute guy at a competition, do I fence differently or hate him if he bruises me? No, I might notice him but I don't really care what he thinks of me. What I care about is winning. That's what you should care about. Be polite to everyone, not just the "cute chicks" and fence your best. That's all that matters.

[Saber-Psycho]

It's more annoying, for me, when a guy hits hard then apologizes EVERY SINGLE TOUCH.
Maybe, like after the bout coming up and apologizing once, that's fine.
But don't make girls think that you think that their fragile and not good enough to be fenced hard.
That's more a put off than being hit hard.

[electricepeeist]

Also...you say that you're fairly new which is why you have trouble with distance and force, etc. But if you're quite new, how are you apparently beating all these girls, as you say? Girls are not inherently worse fencers.

[D+F+P=Hadouken!]

Yeah, I've only been at it for a year and a half, how do I beat them? By getting more points than they do, and I have been beaten by girls before. The problem, is that I hit hard, and they get angry with me afterward, so I need to work on not hitting as hard.

[Artisan]

....The problem, is that I hit hard, and they get angry with me afterward, so I need to work on not hitting as hard.

You've also said that you hit hard almost all the time, so this doesn't apply specifically to you - but sometimes a hard shot can be the fault of the person getting hit - for the same reason. If you are on the receiving end and getting wailed on all the time...you are doing something wrong. Watch a foilist pick up an epee for the first time - they are bound to complain about hard hits, and yet they just keep making BIG lunges into your point - oh well....