Suggestion for screwing on an epee tip

[PeterGustafsson]

Hi!

Anyone more than me that have had problems scewing on the 1st screw on an epee tip?

I tried this and it makes things easier:

The epee grub screws are M2 diameter, so I got a M2*16mm screw intended for small electrical stuff. It fits in the M2 nut threading of the tip, but is so long so that it is easy to screw it in while holding it the hand (oops - came out sorta wrong! ) Once it is in, then it blocks tip rotation, and it is much easier to screw in the 1st grub screw on the other side. Once that is in, it will block rotation, and the long M2 can be taken out and replaced by the 2nd grub screw. Saves a few foul words.

Have a nice time!

Peter Gustafsson

BTW: Feels nice to be able to read here again! Some time ago, my old clunker went belly-up from to many spywares and probably at least one virus. While it was away for fixing by a computer aquiaintance, there was a fire in the cellar ouf our apartment complex. Luckily, none was hurt and my stuff was not burnt up, but all cables (broadband, phone,TV) were cooked. Took some time for the county to fix the cables. One of several unexplained fires hitting my town, shortly after a guy who had been seen at 23 previous fires was aquitted of arson, since there was no airtight proof in any of them. Major irritant.

[telkanuru]

Sorry about the hardware malfunctions. If you want, I can give you the links for parts to build a $500 top o the line computer, if you like assembling hardware youself. Anyway.

2 things to add, I think. First, just to note that I've found that magnitized screwdrivers do more harm than good. Second, if you don't have a vice, use a towel or article of clothing to prevent the weapon from rotating because of the bell guard.

Oh, and a third thing. Always check your epee tips for screws before you bout. I dare say that missing tip screws are the primary cause of yellow cards, tied with or exceeding those distributed for failing the small shim.

[DHCJr]

First, just to note that I've found that magnitized screwdrivers do more harm than good. Second, if you don't have a vice, use a towel or article of clothing to prevent the weapon from rotating because of the bell guard.

I think you need to explain your first comment. I for one am curious.

On your second, another idea is tip tape and placing the bell guard in the middle.

[drseudo]

I think you need to explain your first comment. I for one am curious.

No, I can see where he's coming from on the magnetized screwdrivers. I mean, it saves you the hassle of moving the screw from the baggie to the tip, but once it's in there, minute movements of your hand can get it dislodged from the threads. I can personally attest that to finally get the screw lodged in the threads properly, only to have the screwdriver pull it out again, is the most agonizingly annoying thing in the history of the universe.

Of course, I still use 'em.

[great bowyer]

for dealing with the screws, i believe,that this is an acquired skill, practice makes perfect. at least theoretically

[Purple Fencer]

No, I can see where he's coming from on the magnetized screwdrivers. I mean, it saves you the hassle of moving the screw from the baggie to the tip, but once it's in there, minute movements of your hand can get it dislodged from the threads. I can personally intense that to finally get the screw lodged in the threads properly, only to have the screwdriver pull it out again, is the most agonizingly annoying thing in the history of the universe.

Of course, I still use 'em.

No argument there! One thing I;ve found useful is...if the screw bites into the grove, but you don't think it's aligned right, sloooooowly back the screw out...you should feel a very slight *click* when the screw's all the way out and pops into place...then you can crank it in.

[DHCJr]

As great bower said, it is an acquired skill, but also the proper tools help more. First there is a right way to properly magnatize the screwdriver. I have borrowed a screwdrive in the past, and I had the same problem as describe. The screw was not firmly in place. When I use my own, the screw stays parallel to the screwdriver.

There are specialty magnatizers, you might look into them or ask an Armorer. Not all carry one with them, but some do.

Also the right size helps a lot. It is one reason my bag that I carry at the strip has gone over 30 lbs.

drseudo, your explanation was good.

[mifencer]

No, I can see where he's coming from on the magnetized screwdrivers. I mean, it saves you the hassle of moving the screw from the baggie to the tip, but once it's in there, minute movements of your hand can get it dislodged from the threads. I can personally attest that to finally get the screw lodged in the threads properly, only to have the screwdriver pull it out again, is the most agonizingly annoying thing in the history of the universe.

When I started to fix my own equipment, many many moons ago, I was told not to use a magnetized screwdriver for that reason. I use a non-magnetized screwdriver with a sharp edge. The sharp edge holds the screw while I TRY to place it in the hole. Also, having a sharp edge helps me dig the screwdriver in my finger and causes a lot of bleeding. I concur about putting these things in is the most agonizing annoying ****ing thing in the whole history of the universe.

I don't trust the screwless tips, so I still use the screw-tips

[Purple Fencer]

I need to get hold of a guy in the San Bernardino division who actually found tips screws that work for epee that are (get this) inside hex!! If you sneeze you lose the itty-bitty allen wrench. He had a standard screw in one side and an allen in the other. I don't think he's lost the allen yet...and it probably holds onto the screw better than a regular slot...

[telkanuru]

Drseudo pretty much got it. I find when I use magnetized screwdivers, the screws seem to deliberately avoid the hole, by bending left or right, not going in straight, or clinging to the handle. It might be noted that I make my own magnetic screwdrivers from nonmagnitzed computer drivers. My driver set I normally use for computer repair, and the magnatism both helps and is not too great to interfear with the HD or anything.