04-29-2004, 09:19 PM
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#21 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by handartista Right now I am fencing in Budapest, Hungary, but will soon be moving to the United States (MN). I will be living in a small town, and the nearest fencing club is 90 miles away...
Can I enter official tournaments (USFA) if I am not a member of an official USFA club? and please fill me in as to how the rankings etc work... | If you have your FIE license, you don't even have to join the USFA -- your FIE license will have reciprocity. When the tournament organizer asks for a club affiliation, you just show your FIE license and give the country (HUN) that authorized your FIE license. Of course, if you are not maintaining your Hungarian Federation membership and your FIE license through them, then you will have to get a USFA membership, and on the membership application, just declare yourself as unattached.
The only USFA sanctioned events in which you cannot compete are those which are qualifiers for National Championships, unless, of course, you have permanent resident status (I think that permanent residents are eligible while resident aliens are not eligible).
If you enter a local or regional competition, you will be classified as a U until you earn a classification under our system; if you enter a NAC, then the USFA, at their discretion, may classify you for the seeding of that particular tournament based upon any past results that you show them. | 
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04-29-2004, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sabreman Scott Bozek was US Epee National Champ and member of the 1976 US Olympic team. Lived in DC area at that time have no idea where he is now. | yeah, one of Joe's Olympians, right? I was so informed by a friend.
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04-30-2004, 01:05 AM
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#23 | | Fencing Coach
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| All the information about fencing in the USA and going to tournaemnts is at http://www.usfencing.org...
Just curious when are you moving to the USA, why and where exactly is the small town...
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04-30-2004, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by epeemike81 yeah, one of Joe's Olympians, right? I was so informed by a friend.
-m | Yes... Trying to remember what club he went to... wherever it was the coach had trained some unbeleiveable number of US National Champs... MR. Bozek got me into fencing  He lives in Hungary right now (works with the US Embassy, commerce or somesuch deal). Runs a small club in which I am a member... What an awsome guy. | |
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04-30-2004, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by hpfencing All the information about fencing in the USA and going to tournaemnts is at http://www.usfencing.org...
Just curious when are you moving to the USA, why and where exactly is the small town...
SOrry I'm nosey | June 7th or 8th, Pine River MN. I have lived here before for small periods of time...long before I started fencing. | |
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04-30-2004, 06:43 AM
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#26 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by handartista Yes... Trying to remember what club he went to... wherever it was the coach had trained some unbeleiveable number of US National Champs... MR. Bozek got me into fencing He lives in Hungary right now (works with the US Embassy, commerce or somesuch deal). Runs a small club in which I am a member... What an awsome guy. | He went to Tanner City Fencing Club and was coached by Joe Pechinsky. | |
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04-30-2004, 06:46 AM
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| Tanner city... yes that rings a bell... You would not beleive what a great guy he is... his fencing club is completely free, he does it out of the kindness in his heart, and wanting to get people into fencing... Its all his private equipment... its great. | |
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04-30-2004, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by handartista Tanner city... yes that rings a bell... You would not beleive what a great guy he is... his fencing club is completely free, he does it out of the kindness in his heart, and wanting to get people into fencing... Its all his private equipment... its great. | being as I live around here, I actually would believe, and know, what a great guy Joe is , but it's definitely a point worth repeating.
here's something you may not know about Joe: he didn't fence. His niece came to him and said she wanted to fence, so he went to the library, read up on it, and taught his niece. she was his first olympian. given the differences between books and reality, I'm guessing that the real secret to his success was the ability to adjust his coaching.
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04-30-2004, 07:21 AM
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#29 | | Member
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| Im sure Joe is great too, buttttt... I was refering to MrBozek  lol... Actually I knew that he didnt fence My maestro told me that. | |
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04-30-2004, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by handartista Im sure Joe is great too, buttttt... I was refering to MrBozek lol... Actually I knew that he didnt fence My maestro told me that. | ah, I see. well, he was following joe's plans with that one. Joe's lessons and club are free.
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04-30-2004, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by epeemike81 ah, I see. well, he was following joe's plans with that one. Joe's lessons and club are free.
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04-30-2004, 10:27 AM
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#32 | | Fencing Expert
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Originally Posted by whtouche To more specifically answer one of your questions - yes, if you were to win or finish high enogh in a strong enough tournament, you could conceivably go from a U to an A in your first tournament.
Segey Isayenko, from the ukraine currently attending st. johns university in new york(and also a really nice guy if I remember correctly) entered a tournament in connecticut last year as his first USFA tournament. Went from a U to a B (I think there weren't enough As in the top 8 to make it an A tournament)
So, yup - it's possible.
Out of curiousity, handartista, what is your fencing background? Weapon, experience etc? | There were enough A's (Oleg Stetsiv took 2nd, I took 3rd). There weren't enough B's (the 2 B's hit each other in the rd of 16).
-B :)
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04-30-2004, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by epeemike81 ah, I see. well, he was following joe's plans with that one. Joe's lessons and club are free.
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I think the club technically has a $50/year membership fee that one is expected to pay if attending fairly regularly. But yeah, basically free.
-B :)
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05-01-2004, 08:17 AM
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#34 | | Member
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| "Out of curiousity, handartista, what is your fencing background? Weapon, experience etc?"
My background is I have been fencing at a club here in Hungary "Tanner City East" for about a year and half... Exlusively Epee... Not much expereince therefor, but I practice a lot, so Im not totally newb-e-ish. | |
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05-01-2004, 02:54 PM
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#35 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by handartista Good to know. Explain to me... Say I got 1st place in a state tournament and that was my first tournament (Im not expecting to get first :P Im just trying to understand), with that ONE tournament would your ranking go up to an A?
| It COULD go up to an A rating....It all depends on the number of fencers and thier ratings. Here is a chart that shows how it works. http://nadi.calpoly.edu/~fencing/Doc...sfa/class.html
As you can see, at any USFA tournament with 15 or more fencers and at least 2 A's & 2 B's & 2 C's (or higher) competing you could get your A rating. | |
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