"Musketeer" movie trailer looks awesome!

[Bugaboo]

Is anyone here interested in movie sword fights? Anyone? Anyone?
http://www.universalpictures.com/glo...gi%3Fid%3D9580

I saw the big screen teaser for "Musketeer" last night. It looks like a LOT of fun.

I am so there on opening day.

[Fleche]

Cool...Can't wait for it to come out here.

'Lady' Fleche

[edew]

They're making YET another Musketeer movie? Didn't Disney make one about three years ago? The definitive one is still the Michael York/Raquel Welch/Oliver Reed/Richard Chamberlain/Charlton Hester/Christopher Lee one made in the early/mid 70's.

[epeemike81]

I think the disney film starred Leo DiCapprio. So can it REALLY be called a movie?

-m

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DUCK AND COVER!!!!!!

[edew]

Ok, so I checked out the trailers. Looks pretty good. Sorta like a Matrix-fied version of the Michael York/Raquel Welch one. I'll go see it.

Any clubs plan to capitalize on it? Do some demos or something?

[Shadow Fencer]

This looks like it would be a lot of fun to see with a group of fellow fencers!!!!

I can envision us hooping and hollering!!!



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I live to fence and fence to live!!

[edew]

Originally posted by epeemike81:
I think the disney film starred Leo DiCapprio. So can it REALLY be called a movie?

-m

That was "The Man In The Iron Mask." The
recent Three Musketeer included Chris O'Donnell, Keifer Sutherland, Oliver Platt, and someone else.

[Iwant2bafencer]

I liked the way they *made* The Man in the Iron Mask. I thought it was well done.
I really enjoy the one with Chris in it. (The reicent one.) Of course I am totally into *all* of that kind of stuff.

[Fencer2000]

Trailer looks cool. I'm sure I'll see it. Only thing sounded funny, they mentioned consulting with an asian martial arts master on the fight scenes... too bad they couldn't bother to consult John Clements, or someone else who knows WESTERN martial arts, not karate, etc.

*Speaking of movies, I assume you've all seen The Mask of Zorro, with Anthony Hopkins? If not, rent it today; I promise you will love it.*




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[epeemike81]

"The Man in the Iron Mask" IS a Three Musketeers story.

-m

[Prometheus]

Not and asian martial arts master, a Hong Kong fight coreographer (fimmaker). Two completely different things. Just from the trailer, it is evident that the action sequences were done in that style. The emphasis here is on astetic impact and visual effects rather then authenticity.

Some recent examples of this style imported for comparison: "The Replacement Killers" exec producer John Woo, "Mission impossible 2" directed (I think) by John Woo. For some excillent subtitled films I would recomend two more films by Woo staring Chao Young Fat, Hard Boiled and The Killer. The recent "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon" is an example of classic Hong Kong wirework action, although from the looks of it, the new film may not involve that kind of stuff.

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[edew]

Chow Yun Fat/John Woo movies like Hardboiled and The Killer aren't exactly in that genre, given that they fight with guns and bullets instead of sword, or karate-chop-chop style, or fighting.

However, the action in those movies are almost balletic. I remember when I first saw The Killer. It was a seminal moment in movie making, that's for sure.

As for Man In The Iron Mask, well, technically it is part of the Three Musketeer trilogy. Too bad they never got around to making the second part of the trilogy (or even bother to reprint it...I can't find it anywhere, even Amazon or Borders.com). The second book is called Twenty Years Later. The Man In The Iron Mask takes place twenty years after that.

[Prometheus]

I would argue that although some Hong Kong style films involve firearms they are more alike then films from other backrounds with similar weapons.
I think more analogues can be seen between Hong Kong sword and fist films like Drunken master (original or legend of, original perferred) Crouching Tiger, etc. and the Hong Kong style "Gun" movies like MI2 and The Replacement killers then a Western arts Classic with Erol Flynn and Muskateer (at least based on the action sequences from the trailer)
Personally, I think its more about the cinematography and other stylistic techniques then the setting.

[Fleche]

I like the musketeer movie with Oliver Platt/Charlie sheen and Tim Curry.

I watched half of The Mask of Zorro - I had to stop because I have school today. groan.

Maybe this new movie will sort of be like crouching tiger, hidden dragon. that was a cool movie, I wish I had a sword like that.

'Lady' Fleche

[edew]

Originally posted by Fleche:
I like the musketeer movie with Oliver Platt/Charlie sheen and Tim Curry.
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Maybe this new movie will sort of be like crouching tiger, hidden dragon. that was a cool movie, I wish I had a sword like that.

'Lady' Fleche

You liked the Green Destiny sword? That thing was flimsier and whippier than a stamped Leon Paul pre-S2000 sabre blade after three years of practice!

[Fleche]

Yeah, but it had cool designs etched onto it... the only cool thing I've seen on foil blades was a multicoloured one.

[Christopher J Umbs]

I suppose I'll go to see it... kicking and screaming the entire way and then being unable to stop picking it apart throughout the entire movie. I really just can't enjoy these kind of movies anymore which is a shame.

Chris

[its_me_mango]

chris don't worry, you grow up some and those movies don't tend to enthrall you vey much, but some of the fencing can be interesting, the question is do we really want to spend 7 bucks to see a 3 hour costume film with 20 minutes of fencing, and......and....wait! YES WE DO.....

[edew]

$7 for a movie? 3 hours for a movie? We're
paying $8.75 for a more realistic 1.5 hours for the movie.

[Christopher J Umbs]

Mango, the fencing is the problem. I've been studying rapier for too many years to watch bad stage combat of it. It's like asking a serious Asian martial artist what they thought of 5 Deadly Venoms. I do appreciate some fencing in movies (King's *****, the smallsword work in the A&E Pimpernell, Queen Margot and a few others), but it's few and far between.

Chris