03-05-2004, 07:25 AM
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03-05-2004, 10:19 AM
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| I don't think you can. I believe thats a special order item. Sorry- or we'd ALL be ordering our hex nuts from the hardware store. Sure would be cheaper! | |
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03-05-2004, 10:29 AM
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| Although I was pooh-poohed the first time I posted this, I'm glad to see it come up again. What I have done in the past is buy 3/8 x 16 UNC x 3/4"L hex standoffs, drill them out and rethread them to 6mm x 1. If you are careful, you don't have to drill it out, just rethread it. LOTS cheaper!
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03-05-2004, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mergs Although I was pooh-poohed the first time I posted this, I'm glad to see it come up again. What I have done in the past is buy 3/8 x 16 UNC x 3/4"L hex standoffs, drill them out and rethread them to 6mm x 1. If you are careful, you don't have to drill it out, just rethread it. LOTS cheaper! | Not a pooh pooh... but you must mean a 3/8" hex (OD) standoff with a 6x32, 8x32 or 10-x32 thread right? McMaster Carr has 'em in steel for $2 and Stainless for $3. Fencing vendors sell them for $4. For me...and I have the shop equipment to do it quickly and easily... $1 or $2 savings to drill and tap a nut aint worth my time...for the quantity of nuts I'll need in a year. Plus I know I'll be getting a nut with full thread engagement. Once you have a nut strip inside a grip and have to destroy the grip to remove a blade or change a guard, it will prove to be a false economy.
Now if its a night before a tournament emegency... and there's nothing open - not even Home Despot, I'll start with barstock if I have to and make a nut from scratch. Much to SWMBO's dismay if need be.
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03-05-2004, 03:14 PM
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| I have a local company take 5/8" hex coupling nuts and redrill them to 6mm...never had a prob...and they fit in the wrench jus' fine! | |
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03-05-2004, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Fencer I have a local company take 5/8" hex coupling nuts and redrill them to 6mm...never had a prob...and they fit in the wrench jus' fine! | huh...5/8" ? really? Wouldn't fit into any grips I've even seen - or fit any wrench... Did you mean 3/8"? | |
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03-05-2004, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Artisan but you must mean a 3/8" hex (OD) standoff | Well, it may not be a 3/8" internal thread, I haven't measured it or bought any for a while, but I know that I can thread it without drilling it out first, which leads me to assume that it is greater than 10-24 (probably closer to 12-24). Sam has it right, though. It is 5/8" OD. I'll double check it tonight and post it tomorrow.
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03-05-2004, 09:00 PM
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| I would guess it was 5/16, rather than 5/8 or 3/8. The outside of the current pommels is 8mm, which is approximately 0.315". 5/16" is 0.3125" 3/8" (0.375) is even larger than the old Prieur 9mm OD, but is smaller than the 10mm pommel for Leon Paul's new French Grip.
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03-05-2004, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DHCJr I would guess it was 5/16, rather than 5/8 or 3/8. The outside of the current pommels is 8mm, which is approximately 0.315". 5/16" is 0.3125" 3/8" (0.375) is even larger than the old Prieur 9mm OD, but is smaller than the 10mm pommel for Leon Paul's new French Grip. | I may be misremembering the OD of the nut. Remind me to show you at the OC tourney Sunday... | |
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03-06-2004, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DHCJr I would guess it was 5/16, rather than 5/8 or 3/8. The outside of the current pommels is 8mm, which is approximately 0.315". 5/16" is 0.3125" 3/8" (0.375) is even larger than the old Prieur 9mm OD, but is smaller than the 10mm pommel for Leon Paul's new French Grip. | Which makes more sense... the holes in grips are about .470" - .510" and you need some room for the socket wrench. Mergs: 12-24 is very close to 6x1, which is why it works, and the threads will only be marginally weaker (some metal does shave off - mostly in depth) After all, 1 mm / thread is very nearly the same as 24 TPI and the #12 is a little smaller than the 6mm. | |
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03-08-2004, 12:14 AM
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| K'...Donald check my nuts tofay (boy...THAT didn't come out right!)...they're 5/16th.
Sorry 'bout the confuision... | |
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03-16-2004, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by D+F+P=Hadouken! Can you buy 6mm hex nuts at the hardware store? I couldnt find any that would fit inside the visconti. | I work at a company that produces mechanical stuff for mostly vehichle industry, and I had a look at the threaded products we use.
In the picture, there are 2 sets of parts, 6mm and 8mm. I live in a country where anything inch-wise is special order, making life easier. Anyway, the 6mm parts are a short screw with and inside hex, and a 30mm long connector nut with a inside hex screw screwed in. The latter two are bonded by Loctite thread-lock. Total work time: 1 minute.
In the catalogue, the connector nut cost 721:-/100-pack, and the inside hex screw 125:-/100-pack. A grand total of 8.36 Sw.Kr per finished set. The rate is 7.15 Sw.Kr=1 US$, last time I looked. If you buy, see to it that you get coarse (i.e. normal) threading. You could forget about the inside hex screw and instead saw a slit at the top of the connector nut with a hacksaw and then screw in the connector nut with an ordinary flat screwdriver. But more work that way.
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oops - file to large -will have to do some cropping.
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03-16-2004, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Fencer K'...Donald check my nuts tofay (boy...THAT didn't come out right!)...they're 5/16th.
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03-17-2004, 01:53 AM
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Hi!
Hope this works out.
Have a nice time!
Peter Gustafsson
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03-17-2004, 03:14 AM
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| I just went to Home Depot and they have a special section with metric nuts. I purchased 6mm hex nuts with the plastic lock fittings with a 6X1 thread.
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03-18-2004, 10:14 AM
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| Hey Peter, nice nuts! 
And that is the first vernier calipers I've seen since I last used my slide rule!
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