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Array  Originally Posted by Soldier Well, it is new. The old ones could only see into your head; this one actually gets into your soul.
Oh, crap, shouldn't have let that slip... we saw that too -
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Array They said I could kill you, but then I'd have to tell you...
Whoops, I think the topic got lost... The only way to atone for being occasionally a little over-dressed is by being always absolutely over-educated. -Oscar Wilde -
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Array Dern. I'm still a libertarian leftist. You'd think I'd mellow as I get older, but naaah.
Some cheery thoughts: Bushisms "Arm yourself, Watson, there is an evil hand afoot ahead." -- Dennis Pierce, 2010 Bulwer-Lytton contest, detective fiction category runner-up. -
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Array  Originally Posted by telkanuru They said I could kill you, but then I'd have to tell you.
I believe it's called "flight of ideas" and it's a symptom of something deeper... "Let him live upon what belongs to him without wronging others, and accommodate his expense to his revenue."
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Array  Originally Posted by Peach Dern. I'm still a libertarian leftist. You'd think I'd mellow as I get older, but naaah.
Some cheery thoughts: Bushisms
Egad... that is one man who should know by now not to give extemporaneous speeches... I know speech writers across the years have slapped their collective heads at the things their presidents have said, but... wow. eloquent, he is not. -
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Array At this point I'll re-state my position that the public seems to always need somebody to ridicule. Before this, it was Dan Quayle, was it not? If you want to make fun of presidents, etc., and all their spoken blunders, great. But to qualify for this, first you have to document every time you speak for a minimum of four years, then let us go through and make thorough and public fun of every single error you ever make.
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Array It would be un-American not to make fun of sitting Presidents. I've lived through quite a number of them, and they were all funny as heck the entire time they were in office (well, JFK wasn't funny). Anyone who wants to be President in the first place deserves it.
Dwight Eisenhower was Elmer Fudd, for heaven's sake. "Arm yourself, Watson, there is an evil hand afoot ahead." -- Dennis Pierce, 2010 Bulwer-Lytton contest, detective fiction category runner-up. -
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Array  Originally Posted by Soldier At this point I'll re-state my position that the public seems to always need somebody to ridicule. Before this, it was Dan Quayle, was it not? If you want to make fun of presidents, etc., and all their spoken blunders, great. But to qualify for this, first you have to document every time you speak for a minimum of four years, then let us go through and make thorough and public fun of every single error you ever make.
Then feel free to make fun of everybody else. *laugh* That's the truth, absolutely. My family continually gives me trouble for all the things I've said over the years, many of which I have no memory of whatsoever. I hear them and think... "WHAT??? I would never have said that!".
But that being aside, most quotes that we make fun of of all of our presidents are said behind a podium to a group of people. Presidents have speech writers for a reason. In fact, most presidents were self admittedly uneloquent. You can normally tell when any given president starts to adlib his speeches because he'll start saying things like: "More Muslims have died at the hands of killers than—I say more Muslims—a lot of Muslims have died—I don't know the exact count—at Istanbul."
Right... have I said as equally stupid things? Of course I have. Have I said them to an audience which is being recorded, considered for merit, or at least considered a "speech" and not just me talking... I certainly hope not. If I have to get up in front of people and give remarks, I spend quite a bit of time refining what I'm going to say in order to get rid of needless redundancies, broken or fragmented sentences, and make it sound, at least to me, worth listening to. Then I try to stick to what I've written, knowing that I what I spent that time on will probably be much better than I can adlib off the top of my head.... which would probably sound a good deal more like what I quoted above. hehe.
So, as I said... a president (ANY president) has well paid writers for a reason. I can, and will, make fun of every one of them every time they choose not to use them and make a fool of themselves. That's kind of like having two cars. One's a rugged Hummer and the other's a Miata. You decide to go off road one day, but instead of using the Hummer (which would be the best choice), you suddenly change your mind in the middle of the trip and take the Miata. Then you spend the rest of your day hitting yourself on the head because of the broken axles and bent frame you gave yourself. *shrug*
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