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electric low down well I am finally ready to take the jump into electric foil (my club finally put up the $$ for a box and strip) and I saw the electric foil set at blue-gauntlet.com is that all that I need? I already have a non electric jacket and glove (and foil and helmet of course ) heres a link to what i mean look at the foil set on this page "The shopowner and his son ... well that's an entirely different story altogether ... I had to beat them to death with their own shoes."
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A lame, foil and body cord are all you need to fencing electric foil. However, what you will soon discover is that things don't stay working forever. Your foil will eventually break. Your body cord will eventually break (unless you are like me and your first body cord has miraculously never broken--GO LEON PAUL BAYONET).
Also, for competitions, you are required to have 2 weapons and 2 body cords (though for local tournaments you can go in with 1 and hope nothing goes wrong--do so at your own risk)
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You also need knickers and a plastron (underarm protector) for tournies. Then again the two I've been to didn't even check for plastrons, though one director asked.
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Plastrons are required at competitions? I'm an epeeist, if that makes a difference. I didn't know you needed a plastron! I thought they were an optional thing. Drat it.
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It may just be a USFA thing. Hell it may not even be a USFA thing, but I'm pretty sure we are supposed to have one.
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It is actually FIE (T.43). But the USFA has modified it for it's own competitions in that they are not required to be 800 Newton, but they also go into more detail of the contruction method. Donald Hollis Clinton, Jr. DHCJr@juno.com
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Originally posted by Kismet Plastrons are required at competitions? I'm an epeeist, if that makes a difference. I didn't know you needed a plastron! I thought they were an optional thing. Drat it. In Canada, they require a plastron if your jacket isn't an FIE approved one (800 Newton), but will allow you to fence with an FIE jacket and no plastron.
You really should still wear one though (particularly for foil & epee) ... there's a huge difference safety-wise. And, if you're planning to go to the world cup event in Vancouver (as I see you're from BC), you'll need one there, too.
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Everyone in my club says a plastron really helps with bruises (just as a side benefit) but I don't see how as its just another layer of nylon (sadly I own no 800n gear).
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 Originally Posted by kalivor In Canada, they require a plastron if your jacket isn't an FIE approved one (800 Newton), but will allow you to fence with an FIE jacket and no plastron.
You really should still wear one though (particularly for foil & epee) ... there's a huge difference safety-wise. And, if you're planning to go to the world cup event in Vancouver (as I see you're from BC), you'll need one there, too. Ha...me? World cup event? yeah...right. It would be fun, but I would be eliminiated first round, and it costs way too much money to get eliminated first round.  I do plan on going to watch a bit of it though. Hehe. Anyway...
Plastrons. Yes, thanks for the replies. Just one more thing I have to add to my fencing wardrobe, I guess! Ugh, I spend so much money on the stuff. Why does fencing have to be so expensive???
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Originally Posted by Black Jeebus Everyone in my club says a plastron really helps with bruises (just as a side benefit) but I don't see how as its just another layer of nylon (sadly I own no 800n gear). Don't ever fence epee (or any other weapon for that matter) without a plastron. One more layer of nylon may indeed save your life. If you can't afford a full 800N kit, an 800N plastron is a good investment.
Check out this recent thread:
http://www.fencing101.com/vb/showthr...light=plastron
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Anybody who fence any weapon without a plaston is a fool with or without a 800 k jacket on not. There was a American Fencer in practice fencing epee without a plaston wearing a FIE jacket a broken blade went though the seam of his jacket and puncture his lung. This happen about 4 years ago. The idea of the plaston if you take a look at it there is no seam but a panel to prevent the broken blade from going though it. Yes I highly recommend a FIE plaston or a duck one not nlyon. I took a broken epee though the leg one time back when only 300k was required and I was wearing a new product from Santelli that day testing it for them the blade when though my knicker hit the underwear and came out the other side but not go though the blastic nylon underwear. Oh by the way I have taken a broken sabre though my left shoulder that wasn't protected by the plaston and before FIE uniform. Stuck a towel in the jacket and finised the bout. Nice medal to.
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Originally Posted by sallearmourer I have taken a broken sabre though my left shoulder that wasn't protected by the plaston and before FIE uniform. Stuck a towel in the jacket and finised the bout. Nice medal to.
Daaaamn!
I guess you "didn't have time ta bleed"!
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We didn't have all these fancy trainers in my days. Will at 4 to 1 I firgue I could get quick touch to win. People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
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Originally Posted by sallearmourer We didn't have all these fancy trainers in my days. Will at 4 to 1 I firgue I could get quick touch to win. Tim, if you start telling us that when you were a kid you lived in a cardboard box in the middle of the highway and worked 27 hours a day...
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Originally Posted by Inquartata Tim, if you start telling us that when you were a kid you lived in a cardboard box in the middle of the highway and worked 27 hours a day...
It was in the woods and only 20 hrs a day. I used to be the only armourer to check equipement in and repair reels, machines, and strip calls and repair strips and fixed weapons at the old circuit events what is now called NACs. But they my have a total of 150 fencers for all three weapons. That why I know so much.  
Oh. the machine had mechial relays that had to be set by hand for timing and no programable chips
Tim
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