02-11-2004, 03:36 PM
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#21 | | Armorer
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| In Southern California, they are giving back to the sport.
How about 30 or 40 years ago! I can tell you about some, Joe Elliot, 1965 and 1970 Epee, is still fencing and doing very well in a very strong area. He is also always helpful to the new fencers. There is also Heizaburo Okawa, Foil 1967 & 1968, coaching at Cal State Fullerton. There is Ed Richards, Foil 1962 & 1963, still coaching and you will see him as a referee at most NAC's and long time teacher at the Coaches College. There is Carl Borack, Foil 1969, member of a FIE commission and long time captain of our U.S. Team.
I am sure other areas can say the same. There are the 3 Marx, who are all still active. There is Vinnie Bradford who is still giving back. There are many more.
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02-11-2004, 03:40 PM
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#22 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Charlotte, NC
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| Joe Elliot
He is a graduate of Texas A&M and when Russ Weider dies he came back to college station to fence in the first memorial to him.
He is indeed and class act. | |
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02-11-2004, 05:29 PM
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#23 | | Senior Member
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| Quote: Originally posted by duel mom
And what are these champs from the last 10 to 20 years up to now? Do they give anything back to their sport, or coach now? Train their children or grandchildren? | Jon Normile and George Masin are still very active in Men's Epee. Shoot, Mr. Normile is only a few points shy of making the Olympics.
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02-11-2004, 05:43 PM
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#24 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mid Atlantic
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| Re: Outdoor Title
Quote: Originally posted by dekko
What a great idea, I love this. This is a great reason to have a Hawaii National Championships. Could you imagine the final 8 on the beach with a crowd either in the sand or the water? When it's over let the champ take off their lame, is needed, and then throw them in the water.
This might need to be revived. | I can't imagine trying to clean sand out of my tips, not to mention the havoc on the reels....
I still want to know what the "outdoor" championship was.... | |
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02-11-2004, 05:48 PM
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#25 | | Senior Member
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| Then I guess the sabre fencers are the only ones man enough, or woman enough, to take it and make it work. Next you foil and epee types will be complaining about the heat. | |
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02-11-2004, 06:22 PM
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#26 | | Senior Member
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| Quote: Originally posted by duel mom
And what are these champs from the last 10 to 20 years up to now? Do they give anything back to their sport, or coach now? Train their children or grandchildren? | I can't be sure, I believe peter westbrook (60s through 90s sabre) does a little bit to give back to the sport.
I could be wrong 
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02-11-2004, 06:36 PM
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#27 | | Scavenger
Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Pennsylvania
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| Quote: Originally posted by duel mom
And what are these champs from the last 10 to 20 years up to now? Do they give anything back to their sport, or coach now? Train their children or grandchildren? | Some do, some don't. I know at least one who has tried to coach occasionally but is too busy trying to build his career and take care of his family. Being a top fencer often involves sidelining your career and spending all your money and time on fencing, and in some cases, taking time off from school (graduate and undergraduate). Coaching and refereeing don't contribute all that much financially to someone who is starting from behind to begin with. It's a luxury to coach for many people.
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02-12-2004, 12:15 PM
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#28 | | Fencing Expert
Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: CA area
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| Quote: Originally posted by whtouche
I can't be sure, I believe peter westbrook (60s through 90s sabre) does a little bit to give back to the sport.
I could be wrong | Peter who?
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02-16-2004, 11:34 PM
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#29 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Somewhere in your nightmares!
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| I know at least one of the men on that list: Sewell Schurtz, now a full-time coach in Phoenix. "Giving back" on a daily basis. ( Used to know another, now deceased. ) | |
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02-17-2004, 04:16 AM
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#30 | | Immortal
Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Heidelberg, GE
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| The name of the first sabre champion, Hildreth Bloodgood, (1888) is a hoot...
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02-17-2004, 01:38 PM
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#31 | | Just Joined
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| For the record, I believe Sada Jacobson was the '00-'01 National Champion. | |
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02-17-2004, 03:40 PM
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#32 | | Senior Member
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| Quote: Originally posted by BB Boom Boom
For the record, I believe Sada Jacobson was the '00-'01 National Champion. | Notice how BBBoomBoom spelled Sada's name correctly. Very good Boomboom....
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02-17-2004, 04:45 PM
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#33 | | Admin
Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Atlanta, GA
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| The list I pulled is inaccurate for all of the 2001 National Champion results. They used the season top points earner instead of the winner of the 2001 National Champion tournament.
In WS - Sada did win Nationals and Mariel was the points winner.
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#34 | | Just Joined
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| Thanks for the Historical Info
Craig,
Thank you for your posting. I was looking for info about my Grandfather, George W. Postgate. My mother was forgetting some of the specifics of his career in fencing, and I thought I might find some information on the web for her. She recalled that we was a national champion in 1906 and 1908 (now I think it was only 1908, based on your post). The gold medal that he won was handed down to my uncle Howard, who gave it to a girlfriend to wear, and after they broke up never saw it again! I have a silver medal that he won in the Long Island Division competition in 1905. George Postgate went on to teach fencing at the University of Pittsgurgh, and coached the 1932 Olympic Team.
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