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  #465 Old 08-06-2009 10:50 PM
In a typical touchy-feely decision my Credit Union decided to not have a clause that allows it to make certain changes to our mortgage & loans without our consent so long as they provide adequate notice of the change. EVERY bank & credit union has this clause... except ours. How thoughtful of them.

Recently the banks got permission from the bank of Canada to alter all loans and mortgages by a percentage point or two because <GASP> they weren't making enough money due to the record low Bank of Canada rate (which is at 2.25%).

Well I can see why lending me money at .15% above prime would make slim profits... However, they not only signed the deal but created it!! When the B of C rate was at 2.25% no less!!! And now they're wanting to amend our agreement. Their letter left me with the impression that they needed my permission to implement this... yeah there was a veiled threat of calling the loan, but I decided to call their bluff and not sign.

I received a phone call as a reminder a week ago. I told the bank that I would like to discuss this in person first... partly as a stalling tactic, partly to see if perhaps they would back down.

Alright I appreciate that the rates are low. I also appreciate that my credit union is the only banking institution who's offered a choice rather than just notify their client.

What pisses me off is:

1) The letters come off as being a veiled threat of calling the loan if we don't comply. For a institution that self-promotes being ethical... this didn't seem in keeping with their marketing.

2) I suspect my bank wouldn't agree to amend the contract if I were requesting it. It seems a bit unfair.

3) They are making great profits, they just aren't when it comes to their loans and mortgages right now. The economy is bouncing back nicely. July posted record home sales in our area. Why not just ride out the storm a little?

4) If I agree to this term, so they can make more money off of me, during this "tough economic time" will they claw back this extra percentage when the economy recovers? I doubt it. This new rate will become the new normal and all the banks would proceed with making even more money.

I'm meeting with them this week. I'm willing to gamble that they might back away, if I push on them, as they've had a lot of complaints. <shrug> If they don't, I'll sign. The simple truth is the loans I have are likely to be the last loans I'll ever have. It'll be nice to ride them out on the terms we agreed to rather than the new terms that reach into my pocketbook.
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#3 08-12-2009 10:38 PM
Fencergrl Says:
Today's newspaper said that the Credit Union has decided to not charge the extra fee to any existing loans even if the members have already signed the agreement.

New loans however will be at a higher interest rate.
#2 08-08-2009 03:09 AM
Fencergrl Says:
Talked to our loans officer. He advised that we wait. Since this hit the media, Head office is back peddling and trying to figure out what to do. Some have signed. Some were pressured to sign after initially refusing. He told us that head office has publicly stated that they have not and will not call the loans, so I don't think they can do anything about it if we refuse to agree to the amendment.

We told our loans officer that we're going camping for 2 weeks, so nothing is going to happen until early September. He didn't see an issue with this. The deadline was a couple of weeks ago. Hopefully when we return, head office would decide that this was a bad idea and just accept that they are not able to legally do what every other bank in Canada has done. They're making great profits, this year I'm likely to just make a little less money on my shares. <giggle> I still can't believe they gave us a $50 K business loan at .15% above prime... silly bastards.

Despite this little fiasco, I love my credit union. I've been a member for 30 of the 60 years they've been around. Hubby has been a member for about 20 years. We get the very best rates they can offer on all their products, because we've been with them over 15 years and have different types of accounts. This is the only time they did anything in 30 years to annoy me. The rest of the time they've been innovators when it came to banking. They were one of the first to offer online banking etc...

Let's face it, they were the ONLY bank in Canada who consulted before they were allowed to amend our agreement. Despite it backfiring on them in this case, I suspect that clause was purposely excluded from the agreement as it goes against their policies as a credit union to not consult with their membership. I consider myself lucky to be in the smallest minority of people who didn't get a 1-3% increase in their loans & mortgages this summer.
#1 08-07-2009 02:43 PM
Qbranch Says:
Sounds like they're hoping! I would not back down at all. Unless there is a loophole in the agreement the bank has shot itself in the foot. Lucky you!!
 



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